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		By: UK Resident		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jazak Allah khayr for this post.

I think it went right over my head because I found it confusing.

Is the issue as to whether we say &#039;In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful&#039; out loud before we say Surat Al-Fatiha?

If you look at some Mushafs- &#039;In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful&#039; is actually the first verse of Surat Al-Fatiha, suggesting that it should be said out loud- I always feel more comfortable to say it out loud as I have always thought that it is part of Surat Al-Fatiha itself. Is this an incorrect understanding? Where is the proof that it is not part of the surah?

Surat Al-Fatiha should be 7 verses long, and as far as I have seen some mushafs inlcude it as verse 1, and some split the last verse in to 2 verses and so do not include it in the surah

Please could you clarify whay there is this difference in the masahif and whether &#039;In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful&#039; is the first ayah of Surat Al-Fatiha or not?

Jazak Allah khayr

Fi amaniLah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazak Allah khayr for this post.</p>
<p>I think it went right over my head because I found it confusing.</p>
<p>Is the issue as to whether we say &#8216;In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful&#8217; out loud before we say Surat Al-Fatiha?</p>
<p>If you look at some Mushafs- &#8216;In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful&#8217; is actually the first verse of Surat Al-Fatiha, suggesting that it should be said out loud- I always feel more comfortable to say it out loud as I have always thought that it is part of Surat Al-Fatiha itself. Is this an incorrect understanding? Where is the proof that it is not part of the surah?</p>
<p>Surat Al-Fatiha should be 7 verses long, and as far as I have seen some mushafs inlcude it as verse 1, and some split the last verse in to 2 verses and so do not include it in the surah</p>
<p>Please could you clarify whay there is this difference in the masahif and whether &#8216;In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful&#8217; is the first ayah of Surat Al-Fatiha or not?</p>
<p>Jazak Allah khayr</p>
<p>Fi amaniLah</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in Morocco, a country where the Maliki madhab is the only madhab observed in all aspects of people&#039;s religious life, and I once heard of the disliked basmalah issue, and therefore am still following that &quot;fatwa&quot; which I only heard in a mosque or somewhere. Now, when I hear imams leading prayers in mosques I notice that each imam does what he thinks is the right thing as to the basmala opening. In the same mosque here you can hear different imams doing different things in this regard.

Fiqh and “Mura’at al-Khilaf”  apart, I see things in the light of the following verse:

&quot;There shall be no sin ( imputed ) unto those who believe and do good works for what they may have eaten ( in the past ) . So be mindful of your duty ( to Allah ) , and do good works ; and again : be mindful of your duty , and believe ; and once again : be mindful of your duty , and do right . Allah loveth the good .&quot; (Al-Maidah : 93)

However, there are some who bring forth a counter-argument, such as the following interpretation (in Arabic):

http://www.quranway.net/index.aspx?function=Item&#038;id=42&#038;lang=

But I would still stick to my feeling above (Al-Maidah : 93) when I read:

&quot;As for those who strive in Us , We surely guide them to Our paths , and lo! Allah is with the good . &quot; (Al-Ankabut : 69)

&quot;While as for those who walk aright , He addeth to their guidance , and giveth them their protection ( against evil ) .&quot; (Muhammad : 17)

Then, don&#039;t forget that God does not need our worshipping Him, but

&quot;If ye are thankless , yet Allah is Independent of you , though He is not pleased with thanklessness for His bondmen ; and if ye are thankful He is pleased therewith for you . No laden soul will bear another &#039; s load . Then unto your Lord is your return ; and He will tell you what ye used to do . Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts ( of men ) . &quot; (Az-Zumar : 7)

Consider this verse:

&quot;And the angels called to him as he stood praying in the sanctuary : Allah giveth thee glad tidings of ( a son whose name is ) John , ( who cometh ) to confirm a word from Allah , lordly , chaste , a Prophet of the righteous . &quot; (Al-i&#039;Imran : 39)

If Allah needed our worshipping Him, why didn&#039;t the angels wait until Zakariya finished his prayer?

&quot;Then praise be to Allah , Lord of the heavens and Lords of the earth , the Lord of the Worlds . And unto Him ( alone ) belongeth majesty in the heavens and the earth , and He is the Mighty , the Wise .&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Morocco, a country where the Maliki madhab is the only madhab observed in all aspects of people&#8217;s religious life, and I once heard of the disliked basmalah issue, and therefore am still following that &#8220;fatwa&#8221; which I only heard in a mosque or somewhere. Now, when I hear imams leading prayers in mosques I notice that each imam does what he thinks is the right thing as to the basmala opening. In the same mosque here you can hear different imams doing different things in this regard.</p>
<p>Fiqh and “Mura’at al-Khilaf”  apart, I see things in the light of the following verse:</p>
<p>&#8220;There shall be no sin ( imputed ) unto those who believe and do good works for what they may have eaten ( in the past ) . So be mindful of your duty ( to Allah ) , and do good works ; and again : be mindful of your duty , and believe ; and once again : be mindful of your duty , and do right . Allah loveth the good .&#8221; (Al-Maidah : 93)</p>
<p>However, there are some who bring forth a counter-argument, such as the following interpretation (in Arabic):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quranway.net/index.aspx?function=Item&#038;id=42&#038;lang=" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.quranway.net/index.aspx?function=Item&#038;id=42&#038;lang=</a></p>
<p>But I would still stick to my feeling above (Al-Maidah : 93) when I read:</p>
<p>&#8220;As for those who strive in Us , We surely guide them to Our paths , and lo! Allah is with the good . &#8221; (Al-Ankabut : 69)</p>
<p>&#8220;While as for those who walk aright , He addeth to their guidance , and giveth them their protection ( against evil ) .&#8221; (Muhammad : 17)</p>
<p>Then, don&#8217;t forget that God does not need our worshipping Him, but</p>
<p>&#8220;If ye are thankless , yet Allah is Independent of you , though He is not pleased with thanklessness for His bondmen ; and if ye are thankful He is pleased therewith for you . No laden soul will bear another &#8216; s load . Then unto your Lord is your return ; and He will tell you what ye used to do . Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts ( of men ) . &#8221; (Az-Zumar : 7)</p>
<p>Consider this verse:</p>
<p>&#8220;And the angels called to him as he stood praying in the sanctuary : Allah giveth thee glad tidings of ( a son whose name is ) John , ( who cometh ) to confirm a word from Allah , lordly , chaste , a Prophet of the righteous . &#8221; (Al-i&#8217;Imran : 39)</p>
<p>If Allah needed our worshipping Him, why didn&#8217;t the angels wait until Zakariya finished his prayer?</p>
<p>&#8220;Then praise be to Allah , Lord of the heavens and Lords of the earth , the Lord of the Worlds . And unto Him ( alone ) belongeth majesty in the heavens and the earth , and He is the Mighty , the Wise .&#8221;</p>
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		By: Anon.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assalamo alaikom,

What does Shepherding differences actually mean?

Also does the taqleed here refer to straight of taqleed in the standard dense of scholarly imitation, or is it just referring to following of the imam of the salah that you are praying?

Thanks

Peace]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamo alaikom,</p>
<p>What does Shepherding differences actually mean?</p>
<p>Also does the taqleed here refer to straight of taqleed in the standard dense of scholarly imitation, or is it just referring to following of the imam of the salah that you are praying?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		By: Haq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[studying predominantly Hanafi Fiqh, i feel jelous of the maliki principle of sheperding differences!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>studying predominantly Hanafi Fiqh, i feel jelous of the maliki principle of sheperding differences!</p>
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