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		By: Rahatul Khan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rahatul Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2014 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693&quot;&gt;Muhammad&lt;/a&gt;.

The tyrannical regime of saud bans some ulama and you take it as good? lol that shows us if we should rely on your naseehah or not.

&quot;Now tell me, how can someone who believes in Allah (SWT) and His Messengers (PBUT) and Quran, be considered as a Kafir? – This is just ignorance.&quot;

In fact, this is a statement of ignorance. Why? because the one who claims to believe in Islam or to be a Muslim - what are his preconditions on being a muslim? what are the conditions of the shahada? From among them is to reject kufr. So believing those whom Allah described as kafirs NOT be be kafirs is a contradiction to the foundations of ones faith.

Imam Nawawi notes:
&quot;Someone who does not believe that whoever follows another religion besides Islam is an unbeliever (like Christians), or doubts that such a person is an unbeliever, or considers their sect to be valid, is himself an unbeliever (kafir) even if he manifests Islam and believes in it&quot; (Rawda al-talibin, 10.70).
This is not only the position of the Shafi&#039;i school of jurisprudence represented by Nawawi, but is also the recorded position of all three other Sunni schools: Hanafi (Ibn &#039;Abidin: Radd al-muhtar 3.287), Maliki (al-Dardir: al-Sharh al-saghir, 4.435), and Hanbali (al-Bahuti: Kashshaf al-qina&#039;, 6.170).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693">Muhammad</a>.</p>
<p>The tyrannical regime of saud bans some ulama and you take it as good? lol that shows us if we should rely on your naseehah or not.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now tell me, how can someone who believes in Allah (SWT) and His Messengers (PBUT) and Quran, be considered as a Kafir? – This is just ignorance.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, this is a statement of ignorance. Why? because the one who claims to believe in Islam or to be a Muslim &#8211; what are his preconditions on being a muslim? what are the conditions of the shahada? From among them is to reject kufr. So believing those whom Allah described as kafirs NOT be be kafirs is a contradiction to the foundations of ones faith.</p>
<p>Imam Nawawi notes:<br />
&#8220;Someone who does not believe that whoever follows another religion besides Islam is an unbeliever (like Christians), or doubts that such a person is an unbeliever, or considers their sect to be valid, is himself an unbeliever (kafir) even if he manifests Islam and believes in it&#8221; (Rawda al-talibin, 10.70).<br />
This is not only the position of the Shafi&#8217;i school of jurisprudence represented by Nawawi, but is also the recorded position of all three other Sunni schools: Hanafi (Ibn &#8216;Abidin: Radd al-muhtar 3.287), Maliki (al-Dardir: al-Sharh al-saghir, 4.435), and Hanbali (al-Bahuti: Kashshaf al-qina&#8217;, 6.170).</p>
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		By: Gibran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gibran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18694&quot;&gt;Safa&lt;/a&gt;.

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Those 10 things Ibn Kathir mentioned do in fact expel one out of the fold of Islam. And there is the general principle no, whoever doesn&#039;t make takfir of the kuffar is a kafir himself?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18694">Safa</a>.</p>
<p>Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh</p>
<p>Those 10 things Ibn Kathir mentioned do in fact expel one out of the fold of Islam. And there is the general principle no, whoever doesn&#8217;t make takfir of the kuffar is a kafir himself?</p>
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		By: Gibran		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18700</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gibran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693&quot;&gt;Muhammad&lt;/a&gt;.

Muhammad you are absolutely wrong. That website is run by Sheikh Muhammad Salih al Munnajid and uses many scholars. Please do not mislead people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693">Muhammad</a>.</p>
<p>Muhammad you are absolutely wrong. That website is run by Sheikh Muhammad Salih al Munnajid and uses many scholars. Please do not mislead people.</p>
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		By: Gibran		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gibran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18698&quot;&gt;Gibran&lt;/a&gt;.

There are many uses if the word tawassul nowadays. I will post what brother Abu Zubair has written and that should clear up some confusion.

1) To call upon other than Allah for a need, such as rain, etc, while believing that the one being addressed will answer the call is Shirk by agreement. For example: O Prophet! Send us rain!

2) To call upon other than Allah for a need, such as rain, etc, while believing that only Allah will answer the call is Shirk, by agreement. For example: O Prophet! Send us rain!

3) To call upon other than Allah, asking them to intercede for us with Allah is also Shirk. For example: O Prophet! Intercede for us with Allah!

4) To call upon the Prophet, asking him to make du’a for us is Shirk. For example: O Prophet! Ask Allah to grant us rain!

5) To call upon Allah alone, asking Him by His Prophet is a valid difference of opinion in Fiqh where none is censured. For example: O Allah! I ask you alone by Your noble Prophet!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18698">Gibran</a>.</p>
<p>There are many uses if the word tawassul nowadays. I will post what brother Abu Zubair has written and that should clear up some confusion.</p>
<p>1) To call upon other than Allah for a need, such as rain, etc, while believing that the one being addressed will answer the call is Shirk by agreement. For example: O Prophet! Send us rain!</p>
<p>2) To call upon other than Allah for a need, such as rain, etc, while believing that only Allah will answer the call is Shirk, by agreement. For example: O Prophet! Send us rain!</p>
<p>3) To call upon other than Allah, asking them to intercede for us with Allah is also Shirk. For example: O Prophet! Intercede for us with Allah!</p>
<p>4) To call upon the Prophet, asking him to make du’a for us is Shirk. For example: O Prophet! Ask Allah to grant us rain!</p>
<p>5) To call upon Allah alone, asking Him by His Prophet is a valid difference of opinion in Fiqh where none is censured. For example: O Allah! I ask you alone by Your noble Prophet!</p>
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		By: Gibran		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18698</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gibran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Imam Suhaib, I think the way you phrased &quot;supplicating through an intermediary&quot; is a bit confusing.

What is clear to be is that this means &quot;Oh Allah I ask you by the greatness of your Prophet..&quot;

NOT &quot;Ya Ali Mada&quot; or &quot;Ya Muhammad&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh</p>
<p>Imam Suhaib, I think the way you phrased &#8220;supplicating through an intermediary&#8221; is a bit confusing.</p>
<p>What is clear to be is that this means &#8220;Oh Allah I ask you by the greatness of your Prophet..&#8221;</p>
<p>NOT &#8220;Ya Ali Mada&#8221; or &#8220;Ya Muhammad&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gibran		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gibran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693&quot;&gt;Muhammad&lt;/a&gt;.

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

That website is an absolutely excellent website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693">Muhammad</a>.</p>
<p>Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh</p>
<p>That website is an absolutely excellent website.</p>
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		By: TMI Hijabi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TMI Hijabi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18694&quot;&gt;Safa&lt;/a&gt;.

as salaam alaikum, kafir, kuffar, and kufr are all related as they come from the same Arabic triliteral root k-f-r]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18694">Safa</a>.</p>
<p>as salaam alaikum, kafir, kuffar, and kufr are all related as they come from the same Arabic triliteral root k-f-r</p>
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		By: TMI Hijabi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TMI Hijabi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18686&quot;&gt;Swarthmoor&lt;/a&gt;.

as salaam alaikum,

There is a huge difference between warning of acts of kufr and calling those who follow them kuffar. We are obligated as Muslims, if we have the required knowledge, to point out that worshiping graves is kufr. But it is better to say that the person who does this is misguided or has made a mistake or is in possible jeopardy than to say that he/she is a kafir.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18686">Swarthmoor</a>.</p>
<p>as salaam alaikum,</p>
<p>There is a huge difference between warning of acts of kufr and calling those who follow them kuffar. We are obligated as Muslims, if we have the required knowledge, to point out that worshiping graves is kufr. But it is better to say that the person who does this is misguided or has made a mistake or is in possible jeopardy than to say that he/she is a kafir.</p>
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		By: Safa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Safa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693&quot;&gt;Muhammad&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually I dont only rely at that but like i usually try to get authentic ahadith and stuff. BUt yes sometimes even I found his fatwas a bit far fetched, jazakallah for that.

Actually I dont think Kafir and Kufar are that related, I mean Kafir is someone who does disbelief by denying the existence of Allah SWT and the prophet SAW and the pillars of faith + doing acts of disbelief.

What I meant was by quoting Ibn Kathir&#039;s tafseer of the word kufr which does mean to do acts of disbelief. Certain acts would constitute to that. but it will not make him/her a kafir completely that is a complete different thing]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18693">Muhammad</a>.</p>
<p>Actually I dont only rely at that but like i usually try to get authentic ahadith and stuff. BUt yes sometimes even I found his fatwas a bit far fetched, jazakallah for that.</p>
<p>Actually I dont think Kafir and Kufar are that related, I mean Kafir is someone who does disbelief by denying the existence of Allah SWT and the prophet SAW and the pillars of faith + doing acts of disbelief.</p>
<p>What I meant was by quoting Ibn Kathir&#8217;s tafseer of the word kufr which does mean to do acts of disbelief. Certain acts would constitute to that. but it will not make him/her a kafir completely that is a complete different thing</p>
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		By: Muhammad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muhammad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18692&quot;&gt;Safa&lt;/a&gt;.

@Safa: Do not rely on that website ! - That website is banned in Saudi Arab, the Mufti there is not authorised to issue Fatwas ! - And many fatwas there are wrong !

Even this, on this topic, he thinks that even a true Muslim should be called a kafir, if he doesn&#039;t call the kafirs as kafirs !?! http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/6688

Now tell me, how can someone who believes in Allah (SWT) and His Messengers (PBUT) and Quran, be considered as a Kafir? - This is just ignorance.

The website is a Salafi website that promotes hatred among Muslim, and also making ALL non-Muslims as enemies of Muslims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/calling-someone-a-kafir/#comment-18692">Safa</a>.</p>
<p>@Safa: Do not rely on that website ! &#8211; That website is banned in Saudi Arab, the Mufti there is not authorised to issue Fatwas ! &#8211; And many fatwas there are wrong !</p>
<p>Even this, on this topic, he thinks that even a true Muslim should be called a kafir, if he doesn&#8217;t call the kafirs as kafirs !?! <a href="http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/6688" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/6688</a></p>
<p>Now tell me, how can someone who believes in Allah (SWT) and His Messengers (PBUT) and Quran, be considered as a Kafir? &#8211; This is just ignorance.</p>
<p>The website is a Salafi website that promotes hatred among Muslim, and also making ALL non-Muslims as enemies of Muslims.</p>
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