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		By: Fuseini		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fuseini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m west african whose native language is Hausa from Ghana!I believe they&#039;ve definitely being some exxageration in the use of Arabic especially in the issue of names as this article largely duelled on!But imagine I travelled to the U.S or England and a muslim brother greets me with &quot;Peace be on you&quot; instead of salaamu alaik!would I even recognise that he meant me.even here in Africa(Ghana) with our diverse ethnicities some of these &#039;catchy&#039; Arabic phrases have helped to bridge the gap between our diverse Muslim ethnic groups!I believe my ancestors might&#039;ve had some of the difficulties being cited here but these in particular culturally unite muslims the world over we should not foster some of these without exagerating!salaamu alaik!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m west african whose native language is Hausa from Ghana!I believe they&#8217;ve definitely being some exxageration in the use of Arabic especially in the issue of names as this article largely duelled on!But imagine I travelled to the U.S or England and a muslim brother greets me with &#8220;Peace be on you&#8221; instead of salaamu alaik!would I even recognise that he meant me.even here in Africa(Ghana) with our diverse ethnicities some of these &#8216;catchy&#8217; Arabic phrases have helped to bridge the gap between our diverse Muslim ethnic groups!I believe my ancestors might&#8217;ve had some of the difficulties being cited here but these in particular culturally unite muslims the world over we should not foster some of these without exagerating!salaamu alaik!</p>
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		By: Kirana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It could be that monolinguals, or cultures that have not had to be multilingual for generations of collective memory, are less able to understand issues of translation and the equivalence/non-equivalence of terms and ideas in different language worldviews. Just knowing a single other language *fluently* will immediately enrich your worldview (because you will have 2), and the less related the languages are, the more so this is.

You can speak to a multilingual person who is from a completely different culture about a new concept or idea of something and chances are you can see how they&#039;re working in their minds to find an equivalence in the worldviews they know, to understand the idea as closely as possible to the *original* language view of the idea. A monolingual instead would usually not only try to understand the idea from *their own* worldview, but it would not even occur to them that this is an inefficient and incorrect way of understanding the idea. And if their own language has preconceived notions of a similar idea, it will be really hard for them to view the new form in a different way. Try this out and see. I&#039;ve noted it in my people who are basically monolingual Malay, and multilingual Malay, in monolingual English, multilingual Chinese, etc.

Teach your kids a second language - the cognitive and thinking benefits go far beyond knowing the second language itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be that monolinguals, or cultures that have not had to be multilingual for generations of collective memory, are less able to understand issues of translation and the equivalence/non-equivalence of terms and ideas in different language worldviews. Just knowing a single other language *fluently* will immediately enrich your worldview (because you will have 2), and the less related the languages are, the more so this is.</p>
<p>You can speak to a multilingual person who is from a completely different culture about a new concept or idea of something and chances are you can see how they&#8217;re working in their minds to find an equivalence in the worldviews they know, to understand the idea as closely as possible to the *original* language view of the idea. A monolingual instead would usually not only try to understand the idea from *their own* worldview, but it would not even occur to them that this is an inefficient and incorrect way of understanding the idea. And if their own language has preconceived notions of a similar idea, it will be really hard for them to view the new form in a different way. Try this out and see. I&#8217;ve noted it in my people who are basically monolingual Malay, and multilingual Malay, in monolingual English, multilingual Chinese, etc.</p>
<p>Teach your kids a second language &#8211; the cognitive and thinking benefits go far beyond knowing the second language itself.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 06:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Salaat. I guess I got to this post pretty late but I wanted to mention something about the Prophetic names. Yusuf Ali mentions in his commentary in the meaning of the Holy Qur&#039;an why he sometimes will use the English translation of the prophets&#039; name over the Arabic and vice versa. He says it has to with connotations. Also that when comparing the biblical accounts with the quranic accounts of the same prophets, the prophets often seem like completely different people from their same name counterpart. For example, as you already know, in the Bible David, Lot, and Noah commit acts incongruous with the depiction we have in the Qur&#039;an of Dawud, Lut, and Nuh. And for some reason, some Christians get negative just from hearing the name Ishmael, but have no problem with Isma&#039;il. As a side note, it&#039;s more common for Spanish speaking Christians to be named Jesus (hey Zeus) : than for English speakers to be named Jesus.

So for dawah, or Islamic evangelism, if you want to use the English version of the Hebrew names, it would be wise to note the differences in each religion.

But those and others are just the center of the venn diagram. Kitabis and Muslims each have their own Prophets that aren&#039;t mentioned that by name in the other&#039;s books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaat. I guess I got to this post pretty late but I wanted to mention something about the Prophetic names. Yusuf Ali mentions in his commentary in the meaning of the Holy Qur&#8217;an why he sometimes will use the English translation of the prophets&#8217; name over the Arabic and vice versa. He says it has to with connotations. Also that when comparing the biblical accounts with the quranic accounts of the same prophets, the prophets often seem like completely different people from their same name counterpart. For example, as you already know, in the Bible David, Lot, and Noah commit acts incongruous with the depiction we have in the Qur&#8217;an of Dawud, Lut, and Nuh. And for some reason, some Christians get negative just from hearing the name Ishmael, but have no problem with Isma&#8217;il. As a side note, it&#8217;s more common for Spanish speaking Christians to be named Jesus (hey Zeus) : than for English speakers to be named Jesus.</p>
<p>So for dawah, or Islamic evangelism, if you want to use the English version of the Hebrew names, it would be wise to note the differences in each religion.</p>
<p>But those and others are just the center of the venn diagram. Kitabis and Muslims each have their own Prophets that aren&#8217;t mentioned that by name in the other&#8217;s books.</p>
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		By: Yaman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yaman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/hot-topics/balancing-arabization/#comment-24566&quot;&gt;Sr Ann&lt;/a&gt;.

As an Arab brother, I&#039;m with you all the way on this issue my sister! The arrogance of the &quot;chosen people&quot; mindset of the Jews has crept into the minds of a lot of Arabs unfortunately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/hot-topics/balancing-arabization/#comment-24566">Sr Ann</a>.</p>
<p>As an Arab brother, I&#8217;m with you all the way on this issue my sister! The arrogance of the &#8220;chosen people&#8221; mindset of the Jews has crept into the minds of a lot of Arabs unfortunately.</p>
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		By: What’s in a Name? The Names of God		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What’s in a Name? The Names of God]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 01:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Arabization Series: Part I &#124; Part II &#124; Part III &#124; Part IV &#124; Part V &#124; Part VI &#124; Part VII &#124; Part VIII &#124; Part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Arabization Series: Part I | Part II | Part III | Part IV | Part V | Part VI | Part VII | Part VIII | Part [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: The Language Argument		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/hot-topics/balancing-arabization/#comment-24623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Language Argument]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 05:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Balancing Arabization Series: Part I &#124; Part II &#124; Part III &#124; Part IV &#124; Part V &#124; Part VI &#124; Part VII &#124; Part VIII &#124; Part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Balancing Arabization Series: Part I | Part II | Part III | Part IV | Part V | Part VI | Part VII | Part VIII | Part [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Declaration of Faith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Declaration of Faith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 05:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Arabization Series: Part I &#124; Part II &#124; Part III &#124; Part IV &#124; Part V &#124; Part VI &#124; Part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Arabization Series: Part I | Part II | Part III | Part IV | Part V | Part VI | Part [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Umm Abdullah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umm Abdullah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assalamu alaykum,

I do editing for an Islamic publishing company that produces English-language books, and our policy is to use English whenever possible. For those words that can&#039;t be easily translated, we define them and include them in a glossary.

I&#039;m reminded of The Deen Show, where the host always makes a point of having the guest define any Arabic words that are used.

One point about the converts/reverts taking Arabic names... Personally, I kept my name; I always liked it, I was in my 30s when I embraced Islam and was used to it, and it has a good meaning. Many of my friends chose to take Arabic names, and I can see where that can give you a fresh start identifying yourself as a Muslim. To me, either choice is fine. I do think, though, that if you&#039;re going to take an Arabic name, you should take one that has some Islamic significance (names of Prophets or Companions of the Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, or Abdul... or Amat..., etc.), so that it is Islamic and not simply Arabic. I don&#039;t see the point of taking an Arabic name that means some animal or something and has no Islamic significance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu alaykum,</p>
<p>I do editing for an Islamic publishing company that produces English-language books, and our policy is to use English whenever possible. For those words that can&#8217;t be easily translated, we define them and include them in a glossary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of The Deen Show, where the host always makes a point of having the guest define any Arabic words that are used.</p>
<p>One point about the converts/reverts taking Arabic names&#8230; Personally, I kept my name; I always liked it, I was in my 30s when I embraced Islam and was used to it, and it has a good meaning. Many of my friends chose to take Arabic names, and I can see where that can give you a fresh start identifying yourself as a Muslim. To me, either choice is fine. I do think, though, that if you&#8217;re going to take an Arabic name, you should take one that has some Islamic significance (names of Prophets or Companions of the Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, or Abdul&#8230; or Amat&#8230;, etc.), so that it is Islamic and not simply Arabic. I don&#8217;t see the point of taking an Arabic name that means some animal or something and has no Islamic significance.</p>
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		By: Speak to Me in Words I Can Understand &#124; I, Muslimah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Speak to Me in Words I Can Understand &#124; I, Muslimah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] [Note: Yahya Ederer (Abu Majeed) wrote a two-part article on &#034;Balancing Arabization&#034; that helps put this issue into perspective. He reminds us of what the Qur&#039;an says about the use of Arabic and cautions against arrogance and chauvinism. Read Part II here.] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] [Note: Yahya Ederer (Abu Majeed) wrote a two-part article on &quot;Balancing Arabization&quot; that helps put this issue into perspective. He reminds us of what the Qur&#039;an says about the use of Arabic and cautions against arrogance and chauvinism. Read Part II here.] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/hot-topics/balancing-arabization/#comment-24612&quot;&gt;N.&lt;/a&gt;.

@ N, yes, but not everyone will see it that way 100%. I was a Christian before and though I knew Muslims didn&#039;t worship Jesus I know they worshiped what I, in my ignorance, viewed as God &quot;the father&quot;. Not all Christians will see that but plenty of them will. You know, even to this day with atheists, I sometimes thing to myself well, you say you don&#039;t believe in God but how do you define Him? And then I think well I don&#039;t believe in that god either. (Notice the lowercase &#039;g&#039; there. Often atheists (esp. in this country) define God in a very Christian way and I don&#039;t believe in that god either). Hope you understand what I am trying to say. Maybe tell these Christians you worship the CREATOR, and if they really think about it, they might get it, if not, you may have just planted a seed...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/hot-topics/balancing-arabization/#comment-24612">N.</a>.</p>
<p>@ N, yes, but not everyone will see it that way 100%. I was a Christian before and though I knew Muslims didn&#8217;t worship Jesus I know they worshiped what I, in my ignorance, viewed as God &#8220;the father&#8221;. Not all Christians will see that but plenty of them will. You know, even to this day with atheists, I sometimes thing to myself well, you say you don&#8217;t believe in God but how do you define Him? And then I think well I don&#8217;t believe in that god either. (Notice the lowercase &#8216;g&#8217; there. Often atheists (esp. in this country) define God in a very Christian way and I don&#8217;t believe in that god either). Hope you understand what I am trying to say. Maybe tell these Christians you worship the CREATOR, and if they really think about it, they might get it, if not, you may have just planted a seed&#8230;</p>
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