This is the key issue as you stated: “It seems to me the REAL PROBLEM is desire to be right, an egotistical issue, pride and from Iblis.” Yet each one thinks that he/she is trying to defend the deen from corruption!

Narrated by Anas, that “The Prophet slaughtered a `aqiqa [sacrifice for newborns] for himself after he received the prophecy,” although it has been mentioned that his grandfather `Abd al-Muttalib did that on the seventh day after he was born, and the `aqiqa cannot be repeated. Thus the reason for the Prophet’s action is to give thanks to Allah for sending him as a mercy to the worlds, and to give honor to his Umma, in the same way that he used to pray on himself. It is recommended for us, therefore, that we also show thanks for his birth by meeting with our brothers, by feeding people, and other such good works and rejoicing.” This hadith confirms the aforementioned hadith of the Prophet’s emphasis of Monday as the day of his birthday and that of his prophethood.
[Husn al-Maqsad fi Amal al-Mawlid Page No. 64-65]

It is hence common sense that a mawlid is not obligatory nor is it an ibada as the sheikh said in his first thread, otherwise how would non muslims accompany muslims into this “ibada”? I dont know the experience in other countries.

It is illogical to suggest and indeed insultive that Rasullalah (SAW) would have taught muslims how to “commemorate” his birthday. Even more ridiculous would have been HIS attempt to justify it. If we cant dare demand it from our own present children that they make remembrance for us after we pass away, then how on earth would a God sent prophet dare do it? My take is that your children may make some commemoration of you after your passing based on how they loved you and if there are issues to be lived on. This is the dividing line. Anybody suggesting/arguing as to why the prophet did not do it is just not getting it. If the sahabas did not do it, so what? does that make it haram? We have Islamic banks, sahabas did not have them. So, who is at fault? Every generation has its needs.

It is suddening to note that the thrust has always been to attack the commemoration of the Prophet. No one ever seems to note or post loud dislikes that offering a joint dua behind an imam after the completion of the Koran during the month of ramadhan as a qunuut is equally a bidah. No one seems to mention the truth that the now fashionable al-misyar marriages were never there during the early generations of muslims, no one seems to accept that dividing the hadiths into sahih all the way to “dhaif” was not taught by the prophet and hence also a bidah. The list is countless inclusive of burrying muslims in totally unmarked graves. Did the prophet teach it? In conclusion, if that word “kul bidah” trully means “every single thing” then the respected sahabas who initiated the islamic calendar have a grave case to answer. Because they need to tell the powers that be who taught them.

The argument is not whether a person is happy or sad about the Prophets birthday. Of course every muslim is happy & proud about the Prophets birth.
But the issue is whether muslims should annually celebrate his birth.
The response is very simple & straight-forward for those who are honest about upholding the Prophets sunnah & who are free from following their desires & the people: Of course muslims should NOT celebrate his birth. Neither the Prophet himself did this or ordered this and neither did his beloved sahaba.
So those who celebrate it & say it is a good thing and should (or must) be done must answer a few questions:
1.Do they love the Prophet more than he loves himself?
2.Do they love the Prophet more than the sahaba?
3.Did the Prophet ever lay the grounds for its permissibility? e.g. did he ever celebrate anyone elses birthday?
Be honest to yourself and the answer to the problem is simple.

Who ever is not happy with the birth of the prophet( S.A.W) is not among us and then let him be sad about the birth of the prophet(S.A.W), cos if you are not happy about it the you can’t be in between you must be among the sad.

What about the principle of sunnah at-Tark. I.e. that if there was a reason to perform an act of worship, and nothing to prevent it (as in the case of tarawih in congregation), yet the act was not performed, then that means that the sunnah is to leave that act off…?

Brother Marcus…you have mentioned that Abdullah Bayyah and Br. Suhaib Webb have answered the questions. And we are all grateful for their input. however, what lacks in their responses is the STRONG A’DEELA that makes celebrating the PROPHET SAW birthday Permissible? What brother Atif again and again had repeated..”ANd every NEWly invented matter is innovation and every innovation leads astray and everything that is astray leads to the hell fire” as the Prophet SAW mentioned in his HAdeeth. and like brother atif have asked…where does it say in the Quran for us to celebrate it..where does it say in the hadeeth..where in the Aqwal (sayings) and actions of the Sahabah can we find this. and the next two generations after them have yet to ever narrate or practice such a thing. As shaikh bin baz rahimahuAllah said so eloquently paraphrashing:( “Are we better than the last 3 generations after the PRophet SAW whom he had mentioned as being the best of the Ummah? By Allah, NO! if anyone of us know the characteristics of the sahabah and their love for the Prophet, would know that they will not have fallen short to full filling this right)Ameen to your duas…May Allah SWT forgive us for our Shortcomings..and make us among the Mutaqeen and the amongst the DA;leen

Jazak Allah Khayr for translating this great scholarly take on this matter and for your comments…

I hope im not having soo2 Zan in our brothers and sisters but reading the comments i feel that so many people are posting comments thinking that they have the scholarly tools to do so.

Is it not enough for us that a great mujtahid like AbdAllah Bin Beyyah and a qualified Azhary Scholar like Suhaib Webb have answered the question. the solution to the issue was beautifuly articulated in few words; why do people need to type responses longer than the actual article??? :s

Why do we keep running around in circles. If only we put this effort in to learning and serving our communities…

May Allah unite us in this world and the next.

Jazaak Allah Khayr.
Salam 🙂

I would imam suyuti’s opinion over yours any day. I would love to see you both in a room together presenting your evidences. Interesting thing is these scholars weren’t afraid of admitting they were wrong, or accepting another opinion.

I don’t engage in pointless banter brother. Apologies for any offense, here’s something we can both agree on…

…Allah knows Best.