Comments on: Ibn Tammiyah and the title Sheikh al-Islam https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/ Sun, 25 Dec 2011 12:25:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.4 By: Rodj Najm https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4792 Sun, 25 Dec 2011 12:25:50 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4792 An ignorant (un-informed) person, is who Allah refers to when he says, “We do not punish until We send a messenger,” however we are born on fitra and we have an intellect…so, truth is clearly distinct from falsehood. Shaykh Nuh this, Shaykh Nuh that… there were people telling pilgrims that there is a crazy magician poet (whatever) who thinks he’s a prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace)so avoid him they advised…Shaykh Nuh Keller’s 98 Virginia lessons are freely available for download on shadhiliteachings.com, so, be RESPONSIBLE and INVISTIGATE first, make an account, listen to the shaykh yourself, then love or hate him are Allah moves you… And know that a person is enough of a liar if they just repeat everything they hear. I personally with my ears heard Sh. Nuh say that Ibn Taymiyyah is a mu’min, that anyone who is on what he believes to be what RasuluLlah was on (Allah Bless him and give him peace) is a mu’min.

]]> By: abu mateen https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4791 Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:19:46 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4791 Mr Keller et al have a distinct hatred for Shaykh al Islam and the reasons are quite clear. He (may Allah rest him in Al Firdaus) was a thorn in the side of the mutakalimoon in all their shades as well as a debaser of the Ahl al Hawwa.

Nevertheless, it is discouraging to see no one taking this “leader of the Shadili order in the West” to task for his slander and blatant lies. Mr Keller’s verdicts are worthless to any person who has justice and fairness in his heart.

]]> By: Aboo Uthmaan https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4790 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:06:21 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4790 As-salaamu ‘alaikum

I would hardly call the answer on Sunni Path “balanced”; it says we should respect Ibn Taymiyyah then goes into a full assault on him whilst ignoring the numerous quotes in praise of him and painting a deceptive picture as to what he was upon in terms of his Islam.

You can find a number of clarifications of the works of Ibn Taymiyyah together with numerous praises for him here:

http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?category=37

Your brother

Was-salaamu ‘alaikum

Aboo Uthmaan

]]> By: Alex L. https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4789 Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:56:02 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4789 Wasalaam ‘alaikum Br. Musa, 🙂

Yes I do realize that Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah was extremely anti-Ash’ari.
And that’s why some scholars today (or at least some years ago) were very vocal against promoting him as the Shaykh of Islam.
Which lead others to criticize those scholars, etc.

InshaAllah, I think things have settled a bit.

And the love is mutual Akhi.

-Alex

]]> By: Musa Al Colombee Franco https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4788 Sat, 28 Jul 2007 05:12:47 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4788 Wa Alaykum Salaam

Hey Alex 🙂
It’s not just people’s interpretation of Sheikh Ul Islaaam Ibn Taymeeyah’s work. His books from Aqeedah Hamawiyah. Al Wasatiya and other works criticize the asharis.

You Know even though we disagree I love you for the sake of Allah 🙂

]]> By: Alex L. https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4787 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:07:27 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4787 Salaam ‘alaikum,

To be precise, what Sheikh Nuh Keller said in that talk (the 1998 Virginia lectures) was that Ibn Taymiyyah, rahimahullah, has been promoted in the last 200 years because his dynamic approach to fiqh made it possible for people with reformist/modernist ideas to move away from the 4 madhhabs. Rashid Rida, in fact, is one of those reformers.

As for talk of oil money influencing the popularity of Ibn Taymiyyah, this has more to do with the the recent promotion worldwide of Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab’s interpretation of Ibn Taymiyyah’s creedal works, particularly his criticism of the Ash’aris.

Wallahu t’ala alam

]]> By: Seekers of the truth https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4786 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:38:25 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4786 I found the answer below very fair and well balanced as well. It’s by Mufti Muhammad Ibn Adam from the UK.

Some of the scholars mentioned within the article are: Imam Dhahabi, Imam Subki, al-Haytami, Ibn Hajar, Sh. Abdul Aziz al Dehlvi, Imam al-Kashmiri, Mufti Taqi, Sh. Nadvi, Imam Abu Zahra, Sh. Abdu Fattah, Sh Bouti, Sh. Wahba al-Zuhayli, Sh. Mustafa al-Bugha, Sh. Mustafa al-Khin, Sh. Abd al-Latif al-Farfur…

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=4851&CATE=22

]]> By: Hussain https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4783 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:08:31 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4783 Salams to all, What many people ignore is that it was Rashid Rida who worked consistantly to put forward Ibn Taymiyyah’s ideas into the limelight, sadly those individuals who have a fanatical and somewhat biggoted impression of Ibn Taymiyyah cannot understand why people are so interested in his ideas, they think its all to do with the oil, maybe Ibn Daqiq al Id the great shafi scholar was influenced by the oil money when he said of Ibn Taymiyyah, ‘ a man with a multitude of subjects of knowledge at his fingertips.’

salams

]]> By: American Muslim https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4785 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:24:44 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4785 JazakAllahu Khair, I was looking for such a thing!!

]]> By: Seeker https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/ibn-tammiyah-and-the-tile-sheikh-al-islam-a-refutation-of-the-fanaticism-and-extremism-that-permeates-some-claimants-to-traditional-islam/#comment-4784 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:44:02 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=65#comment-4784 Assalamu alaikum sidi,
Jazakallah for your informative posts. I’d like your comments on what Shaykh Nuh said in one of his speeces (the VASuhba available from the Suhba.org website). He doesn’t seem to hold a high opinion of Ibn Tammiyahs views and (from what I understand. Allah forgive me if I’m putting words into his mouth) that Ibn Tammiyahs school of thought was revived by the petro dollars since it gives people leeway to put their arms around the neck of the west.
I apologise in advance for any lack of adab. But when two knowledgeable people disagree quite sharply, some clarification would be appreciated.

Wassalam and may Allah bless you and your loved ones.

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