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		By: mulismah		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/obama-pledges-new-start-with-muslims/#comment-8926</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[abu graib is suppose to reopen next month with a new name and facelift cause of its reputation not because of what they do there]]></description>
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		By: Abu Majeed		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/obama-pledges-new-start-with-muslims/#comment-8925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abu Majeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Br. Bismillah,

Your statements and the fact that you are genuinely convinced of them are the reason Islam and the Muslims are in the situation they are today. Read the seerah of the Prophet (pbuh). Didn&#039;t he make pacts with the Jews and the Mushrikeen? Was his style in accordance with the way you are acting? Do you suppose he would be acting the way you are? To narrow the place of knowledge that you should be studying I would reccomend the many books which have been written by the Ulema of ahle Sunnah wal-Jama&#039;ah on seerah. If you do not even read Arabic then I suggest (as the Prophet did more than one companion) to hold your tongue until you have the proper tools to make such a decision or accusation. The ironic thing is that when you reach the point in knowedge in which you can correctly judge someone as such then you would most definitely not do so because of the wisdom you would have gained.

akhooka fillah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Br. Bismillah,</p>
<p>Your statements and the fact that you are genuinely convinced of them are the reason Islam and the Muslims are in the situation they are today. Read the seerah of the Prophet (pbuh). Didn&#8217;t he make pacts with the Jews and the Mushrikeen? Was his style in accordance with the way you are acting? Do you suppose he would be acting the way you are? To narrow the place of knowledge that you should be studying I would reccomend the many books which have been written by the Ulema of ahle Sunnah wal-Jama&#8217;ah on seerah. If you do not even read Arabic then I suggest (as the Prophet did more than one companion) to hold your tongue until you have the proper tools to make such a decision or accusation. The ironic thing is that when you reach the point in knowedge in which you can correctly judge someone as such then you would most definitely not do so because of the wisdom you would have gained.</p>
<p>akhooka fillah</p>
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		By: Abul-Hussein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abul-Hussein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AS

I am sincerely shocked at some of the comments that are to be found here. These comments demonstrate the insanity of the Ummah and are not befitting of Muslims. This new hijri year I find that we need to challenge ourselves and not others. How can we expect others to respect us when we have less than respect for each other. The Muslim world is a mess and anyone who has been there is clear on that point. Reform will begin when we have acquired the tools for reform mostly: education and manners and then learn how to work together or at least in coalitions.

Many of us are glad Obama came because Bush manifested some of the worse policies against Muslims that we have seen in our life time. On the other hand, At least he left office in the Muslim world we have those who inflict torture on their people and rule with an iron fist but somehow we seem to neglect to bring those matters up and just blame the West. At the end if we want change let us change the way we treat each other then we can talk about political change until that time we are passing time with empty talk backed with no action. Exactly, what took place here by way of some of the comments is exactly what happens in our masjids and in Muslim countries we deny each other courtesy and rights any people that exists like that will only be trampled upon by others because they have no dignity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS</p>
<p>I am sincerely shocked at some of the comments that are to be found here. These comments demonstrate the insanity of the Ummah and are not befitting of Muslims. This new hijri year I find that we need to challenge ourselves and not others. How can we expect others to respect us when we have less than respect for each other. The Muslim world is a mess and anyone who has been there is clear on that point. Reform will begin when we have acquired the tools for reform mostly: education and manners and then learn how to work together or at least in coalitions.</p>
<p>Many of us are glad Obama came because Bush manifested some of the worse policies against Muslims that we have seen in our life time. On the other hand, At least he left office in the Muslim world we have those who inflict torture on their people and rule with an iron fist but somehow we seem to neglect to bring those matters up and just blame the West. At the end if we want change let us change the way we treat each other then we can talk about political change until that time we are passing time with empty talk backed with no action. Exactly, what took place here by way of some of the comments is exactly what happens in our masjids and in Muslim countries we deny each other courtesy and rights any people that exists like that will only be trampled upon by others because they have no dignity.</p>
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		By: realist		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/obama-pledges-new-start-with-muslims/#comment-8923</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Salam

I would love to be optimistic, but here&#039;s the reality:

Deadly missiles strike Pakistan

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7847423.stm

&quot;Officials told the BBC that the drone actually hit the house of a pro-government tribal leader, killing him and four members of his family, including a five-year-old child.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam</p>
<p>I would love to be optimistic, but here&#8217;s the reality:</p>
<p>Deadly missiles strike Pakistan</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7847423.stm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7847423.stm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Officials told the BBC that the drone actually hit the house of a pro-government tribal leader, killing him and four members of his family, including a five-year-old child.&#8221;</p>
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		By: A Lowly Servant Asks . . .		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/obama-pledges-new-start-with-muslims/#comment-8922</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Lowly Servant Asks . . .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assalamu alaykum

To Bismillah:

If you are a true believer in Allah (SWT), in his absolute power and authority, then why did you just take away his authority by calling Sheikh Suhaib Webb a Munafiq?

&quot;Verily thy Lord will judge between them on the Day of Judgment as to those matters in which they set up differences.&quot; (45:17)

Allah (SWT) never said &quot;Bismillah, you can call Sheih Suhaib a Munafiq.&quot;

Allah (SWT) is Al-Hakam, The Judge.  Only he has the right, the authority, to decide whether someone is a kafir, a munafiq, or a Mu&#039;min.  Not us.  Why?



Because we are nothing.

Assalamu alaykum
A Lowly Servant]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu alaykum</p>
<p>To Bismillah:</p>
<p>If you are a true believer in Allah (SWT), in his absolute power and authority, then why did you just take away his authority by calling Sheikh Suhaib Webb a Munafiq?</p>
<p>&#8220;Verily thy Lord will judge between them on the Day of Judgment as to those matters in which they set up differences.&#8221; (45:17)</p>
<p>Allah (SWT) never said &#8220;Bismillah, you can call Sheih Suhaib a Munafiq.&#8221;</p>
<p>Allah (SWT) is Al-Hakam, The Judge.  Only he has the right, the authority, to decide whether someone is a kafir, a munafiq, or a Mu&#8217;min.  Not us.  Why?</p>
<p>Because we are nothing.</p>
<p>Assalamu alaykum<br />
A Lowly Servant</p>
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		By: Nomad78		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/obama-pledges-new-start-with-muslims/#comment-8921</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nomad78]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Salam,

I actually respect the fact that Bro Suhaib and the good people working on this website have posted that comment from &quot;Bismillah&quot;. It shows maturity and brings to light the fact that not everyone is appreciative and euphoric about what is posted by any and all Shaykhs.
Bismillah is, unfortunately, an example of people whose passion and energy is misdirected but it does not take away from the fact that it is passion and energy. I really do hope that broth Bismillah would call Bro Suhaib and Inshallah his energy will be channeled to the betterment of our muslim community at large.
To everyone, and beginning with myself, this post reminds me of an incident where the prophet, and I am paraphrasing, was told ever so rudely that he did not give a man what he thought would be his fair share. The companions heard the man say that to the prophet and they wanted to &quot;jump him&quot;. The prophet said, let him be. The next day the prophet went to him and gave him more and asked him again if he received his fair share and the man then said Yes. The prophet asked the man then to share with the companions his feeling of satisfaction so that there are no hard feelings amongst them all.
Then the prophet told his companions &quot;You are like the people trying to help a man whose camel is running away from him. You try and reign in the camel but instead you scare him away. The camel owner would say to people leave it alone, it is my camel and I know how to get it back. So, he calms his camel down and treats it well and it gets back to him.&quot; the prophet said &quot;If I let you have your way with that man yesterday he would have died a Kafir, but today Alhadmullilah he is a muslim&quot;
Bismillah was wrong in what he said, and the lash back at his comments show our love to our religion and a good brother from amongst us. But let us all remember that this person, Bismillah, is lost and we won&#039;t get him back by yelling at him. Let&#039;s all pray for him and for those like him and approach them with an open mind and &quot;thick skin&quot; and remember always &quot;Innak La Tahdi man ahbabt, wa lakinna Allah yahdi mayshaa&quot;
I pray for guidance.

Nomad78]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam,</p>
<p>I actually respect the fact that Bro Suhaib and the good people working on this website have posted that comment from &#8220;Bismillah&#8221;. It shows maturity and brings to light the fact that not everyone is appreciative and euphoric about what is posted by any and all Shaykhs.<br />
Bismillah is, unfortunately, an example of people whose passion and energy is misdirected but it does not take away from the fact that it is passion and energy. I really do hope that broth Bismillah would call Bro Suhaib and Inshallah his energy will be channeled to the betterment of our muslim community at large.<br />
To everyone, and beginning with myself, this post reminds me of an incident where the prophet, and I am paraphrasing, was told ever so rudely that he did not give a man what he thought would be his fair share. The companions heard the man say that to the prophet and they wanted to &#8220;jump him&#8221;. The prophet said, let him be. The next day the prophet went to him and gave him more and asked him again if he received his fair share and the man then said Yes. The prophet asked the man then to share with the companions his feeling of satisfaction so that there are no hard feelings amongst them all.<br />
Then the prophet told his companions &#8220;You are like the people trying to help a man whose camel is running away from him. You try and reign in the camel but instead you scare him away. The camel owner would say to people leave it alone, it is my camel and I know how to get it back. So, he calms his camel down and treats it well and it gets back to him.&#8221; the prophet said &#8220;If I let you have your way with that man yesterday he would have died a Kafir, but today Alhadmullilah he is a muslim&#8221;<br />
Bismillah was wrong in what he said, and the lash back at his comments show our love to our religion and a good brother from amongst us. But let us all remember that this person, Bismillah, is lost and we won&#8217;t get him back by yelling at him. Let&#8217;s all pray for him and for those like him and approach them with an open mind and &#8220;thick skin&#8221; and remember always &#8220;Innak La Tahdi man ahbabt, wa lakinna Allah yahdi mayshaa&#8221;<br />
I pray for guidance.</p>
<p>Nomad78</p>
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		By: Suhaib Webb		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/obama-pledges-new-start-with-muslims/#comment-8920</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suhaib Webb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Asalamu alaykum,


The sad thing here is that Br. Bismillah, with all his hard talk, doesn&#039;t have the kufis to post his name and contact information. Don&#039;t worry akhi, no one here holds anything against you. I&#039;m sure that your comments are generated by a love for the faith and sincere concern for the ummah at large. Drop me an email akhi, see contact Suhaib above, and let&#039;s talk. Charges of kufur and nifaq are not easily made and should be backed up by the ruling of the qualified. I was once very similar to you and held very similar contentions. However, the source of the problem wasn&#039;t the scholars or people like Obama. The main component that lead me, in those days, to such conclusions was ignorance. Please, drop me a line, let&#039;s talk look at your points in a brotherly fashion and engage each other.

Suhaib]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu alaykum,</p>
<p>The sad thing here is that Br. Bismillah, with all his hard talk, doesn&#8217;t have the kufis to post his name and contact information. Don&#8217;t worry akhi, no one here holds anything against you. I&#8217;m sure that your comments are generated by a love for the faith and sincere concern for the ummah at large. Drop me an email akhi, see contact Suhaib above, and let&#8217;s talk. Charges of kufur and nifaq are not easily made and should be backed up by the ruling of the qualified. I was once very similar to you and held very similar contentions. However, the source of the problem wasn&#8217;t the scholars or people like Obama. The main component that lead me, in those days, to such conclusions was ignorance. Please, drop me a line, let&#8217;s talk look at your points in a brotherly fashion and engage each other.</p>
<p>Suhaib</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Y]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When on earth are people goin to learn that judgement is for Allah alone. How can a person just conclude dat the other is a &quot;kafir&quot; based on an article. We don&#039;t seem to realize the gravity of that word. Alhamdulilah! that Allah judges us based on our intentions &#038; not simply by the contents of the article we write.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When on earth are people goin to learn that judgement is for Allah alone. How can a person just conclude dat the other is a &#8220;kafir&#8221; based on an article. We don&#8217;t seem to realize the gravity of that word. Alhamdulilah! that Allah judges us based on our intentions &amp; not simply by the contents of the article we write.</p>
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		By: JB		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/obama-pledges-new-start-with-muslims/#comment-8918</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really think &quot;Bismillah&quot;s comment should be deleted. May Allah guide him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think &#8220;Bismillah&#8221;s comment should be deleted. May Allah guide him.</p>
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		By: UK Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assalamu alaikum

Bismillah:

I am so shocked by your comments- maybe you should reflect on your own behaviour before commenting on others. you cannot go around making takfeer on people- who gave you the authority to judge what is in people&#039;s hearts?

I am not putting Obama above any muslim, and certainly not above Allah and His Messenger (PBUH), I simply pray that Allah (swt) guides Obama into not making anything worse for muslims and not waging wars on us- and that we can work with eachother for the greater good for all humanity- Allah (swt) sent His Messenger (swt) as a mercy for all humanity, not just muslims.

I was sadend to hear Obama&#039;s address to the Israeli lobby- he let down justice and freedom, and certainly muslims too, i also don&#039;t understand whay there is a single days delay in closing Guantanamo- he should have stopped the torture already!

We need to expect more from our muslim leaders, hold them to account, and kick them out of office! So what Saudi is donating $1 billion to Palestine- why didn&#039;t they come to the defence of the Palestinians, Iraqi&#039;s, Afghanis, Lebanese etc when it mattered? Shame on our muslim leaders that we have to put our hopes in the Western Governments. But for us, we also live in the West, so it is important to us, we cannot disengage from the community and society in which we live!

I do not support democracy and of course Islamic Law is the utmost and we should strive towards Islamic Law in our lands.

I pray for my muslim brothers and sisters suffering all around the world. I am not Palestinian but I have family in Palestine and it was devastating for us that each time we spoke on the phone to them during the bombings that it could be the last time, and that they are living in difficulty.
Alhamdulillah I was also able to go to Gaza, speak to many people, lend some support and taste what it is like to be there.

You do not know me to judge me. May Allah increase us all in iman and love for Him, His Messenger (PBUH), Islam, and our muslim brothers and sisters.

You have no right at all to call Shayk Suhaib those things- you are not his judge, Allah is! and you do not know what his intentions are or what he is doing with his time.

Shame on you. May Allah increase us all in good character too.

Fi amanillah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu alaikum</p>
<p>Bismillah:</p>
<p>I am so shocked by your comments- maybe you should reflect on your own behaviour before commenting on others. you cannot go around making takfeer on people- who gave you the authority to judge what is in people&#8217;s hearts?</p>
<p>I am not putting Obama above any muslim, and certainly not above Allah and His Messenger (PBUH), I simply pray that Allah (swt) guides Obama into not making anything worse for muslims and not waging wars on us- and that we can work with eachother for the greater good for all humanity- Allah (swt) sent His Messenger (swt) as a mercy for all humanity, not just muslims.</p>
<p>I was sadend to hear Obama&#8217;s address to the Israeli lobby- he let down justice and freedom, and certainly muslims too, i also don&#8217;t understand whay there is a single days delay in closing Guantanamo- he should have stopped the torture already!</p>
<p>We need to expect more from our muslim leaders, hold them to account, and kick them out of office! So what Saudi is donating $1 billion to Palestine- why didn&#8217;t they come to the defence of the Palestinians, Iraqi&#8217;s, Afghanis, Lebanese etc when it mattered? Shame on our muslim leaders that we have to put our hopes in the Western Governments. But for us, we also live in the West, so it is important to us, we cannot disengage from the community and society in which we live!</p>
<p>I do not support democracy and of course Islamic Law is the utmost and we should strive towards Islamic Law in our lands.</p>
<p>I pray for my muslim brothers and sisters suffering all around the world. I am not Palestinian but I have family in Palestine and it was devastating for us that each time we spoke on the phone to them during the bombings that it could be the last time, and that they are living in difficulty.<br />
Alhamdulillah I was also able to go to Gaza, speak to many people, lend some support and taste what it is like to be there.</p>
<p>You do not know me to judge me. May Allah increase us all in iman and love for Him, His Messenger (PBUH), Islam, and our muslim brothers and sisters.</p>
<p>You have no right at all to call Shayk Suhaib those things- you are not his judge, Allah is! and you do not know what his intentions are or what he is doing with his time.</p>
<p>Shame on you. May Allah increase us all in good character too.</p>
<p>Fi amanillah</p>
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