Comments on: Revival, Reform, The Heart And Shar’iah: Sifting Lessons From The Teachings Of The Revivalist, The Muhaddith, The Sufi Imam Ashraf Thanwi (r) https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/ Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:48:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.1 By: Rasheedah https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9394 Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:48:43 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9394 “There is no real transformation of the heart if we treat others without dignity, if we speak to others without looking to the consequence of our words, if we put our ego before principles of Islam. False consciousness and the false self prevent us coming completely into Islam and more exactly into the brotherhood of Islam”.

When i read this statement i thought to myself, wow! if only every1 remembered this when they dealt with their fellow brothers and sisters, the muslim community would be in such a beautiful state.

I pray that I am able to remember this when dealing with others.
ameen.

barakallahu fik brother.

]]> By: Abdullah https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9393 Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:13:08 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9393 Brother,

One of the benefits some of us gained in spending time with the jamaat tableegh was developing this fifth point. I will be surprised if you do not know of this. This fifth point was indeed integrated into the lives of the sahaba in a practical wa and not on an academic level the ongoing discussion seems to be on. Allah knows best

Abdullah

]]> By: Hamza 21 https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9392 Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:37:55 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9392 I understand what definitions of words are but akhi truthfully how many times have you in your lifetime ever heard someone use the words primitive or scheme in the english language in a positive way?

If someone told you they had a “scheme” to make some money would take that as a positive or negative statement? If you heard someone refer to something as “primitive” would take as a positive or negative?

I understand in academic circles they may use the words more frequently and positively but most people wouldn't think to do so. Just something to consider.

Walaykum As Salaam

]]> By: Fiaz https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9391 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:42:52 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9391 colour or color ?

😉

]]> By: Dawud Israel https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9390 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:34:53 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9390 Abul-Hussein:

oed.com baby! oed.com!

In the words of my prof, “It's a miracle they got the entire damn thing onto the internet! It's one of the crown works of human achievement to produce such a piece of work!”

]]> By: Abul-Hussein https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9389 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:19:25 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9389 AS

Hamza21, hope your well. Here are some definitions for the words you pointed out they have a variety of senses. American Heritage: College Dictionary says: (unfortunately it is not Webster or Oxford,Oxford being the superior lexicon of the two but will do. My love, the trustee abridged Oxford dictionary which my English teacher introduced me in its multi-volume form is in Egypt ) says:

Scheme n.
1. A systematic plan of action
2. A secret or devious plan; a plot
3. An orderly combination of related parts
4. A chart, diagram, or outline of a system or object
(Lat. schema, figure < Gk. skema)

The dominant meanings of the word i.e., meanings 1,3,and 4 are in sync with the way it was used in the post

The word primitive also has a series of meanings but how I used it is as follows:

Primitive; 1. not derived from something else; “primary”
-Primary; 1. first or highest in rank, quality, or importance; principal
6. Serving as an essential component in a system; basic
(Lat. chief)

=(chief and primary schema)

AS

Thanks bro because of you I will look to see if the Oxford dictionary is online I never thought to look but will now and I hope Allah rewards you for giving me the idea to look online. Ameen

Abul-Hussein

]]> By: Hamza 21 https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9388 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:28:36 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9388 too funny. The reason i wrote is because I've seen people who learned UK English use the word scheme is some weird ways so I assumed Abul Hussein may have been British. Besides in the UK they still call people of color “colored people”. That phrase can get somebody hurt in the US. lol

]]> By: Fiaz https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9387 Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:08:54 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9387 Hamza 21

“the primitve scheme of the Shar’iah ” I believe Abul Husssein lives in the UK because in US English that phrase is troubling.

UK – England – Land of the English Language
US- United States of America – Land of George Bush

Case closed 😉

]]> By: Abul-Hussein https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9386 Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:26:27 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9386 AS
Hamza 21, I send my salaam to you and the other brothers who have commented. Thank you for your criticism it is well taken. Maybe I was wrong for trying to bring out conceptual points from Maulana Thanwi's work and perhaps my style or person is not suitable to that aim. In any event, we are caught between two poles on the one hand we have not began to communicate Islam in a manner which allows University students to think about it at high levels and on the other hand we have speak clearly so everyone comprehends regardless of their background.

Style is important as is tone and word choice when communicating.

My skills are still crude and I will take your advice and that of others and work on them but please remember that sometimes to write a post in its utmost form can take quite a bit of time and that may not be available. So please read with the principle of charity in mind.

Shukran Lakum

Abul-Hussein
-Yo! Im outta he-er

]]> By: Haq https://www.virtualmosque.com/islam-studies/revival-reform-the-heart-and-shariah-sifting-lessons-from-the-teachings-of-the-revivalist-the-muhaddith-the-sufi-imam-ashraf-thanwi-r-by-sh-abul-hussein/#comment-9385 Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:38:02 +0000 http://www.virtualmosque.com/blog/?p=3650#comment-9385 Salaams..
I think the Shaykhs writing provide food for thought..May Allah bless him and Protect him

Keep them comin bro..
Hope you and your family are doin well 🙂
Wassalam

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