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		By: Shuja Farooq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[subhanALLAH!]]></description>
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		By: Doa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[:-D maa shaa Allah. jazakAllah khair]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>😀 maa shaa Allah. jazakAllah khair</p>
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		By: salim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One question which comes to mind is the concept of &#039;private property&#039; and the Islamic perspective on this. In the current secular world Muslims in the west just assume that the laws regarding private property, being a landlord and renting out a house for profit are the same as Shari&#039;ah laws. However researching the history of the development of the law and contracts regarding private property, I have discovered that land was more or less stolen by the State, this created a landless peasant class which become dependent on the land owners for &#039;employment&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mutualist.org/id4.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mutualist.org/id4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Arthur Young, a Lincolnshire gentleman, described the commons as &quot;a breeding-ground for &#039;barbarians,&#039; &#039;nursing up a mischievous race of people&#039;.&quot; &quot;[E]very one but an idiot knows,&quot; he wrote, &quot;that the lower classes must be kept poor, or they will never be industrious.&quot; The Commercial and Agricultural Magazine warned in 1800 that leaving the laborer &quot;possessed of more land than his family can cultivate in the evenings&quot; meant that &quot;the farmer can no longer depend on him for constant work.&quot; [Thompson, The Making of the English Working Class, 219-220, 358]. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am told under Islamic law prevents such a situation because all of the land is owned by the Kalifah, who then gives it to people who use it and when it is not used or cultivated it cannot be rented out by them to others. Some non Muslims who see the secular system as inherently unjust have suggested that land and houses etc. cannot be rented out unless they are occupied, no absentee landlords....is this &#039;Islamic&#039; can someone clarify the Islamic position on this for me?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the present climate because we have to pay huge taxes to the State, the money we use is created by a banking cartel (it looses its value through &#039;inflation&#039;) we have all become very &#039;selfish&#039; and atomised and isolated, we need to create strong communities where we all look out for each other...and this story highlights one of the ways in which Islam can be a means to that end, but the rest of Islam needs to be known, with regard to its rules of government, its rules regarding employment, and private property.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So far I have received a simplistic &#039;just accept everything and be a good boy&#039; type explanations from my local imaams. I think these imaams lack knowledge of how the world is actually ruled today. Employers largely rob and over work their employees through the contracts, saying &#039;get a job somewhere else&#039; is not really an option because the whole unfair thing has been created by the bosses and is tilted to work in their favour. If Islamic law just says yes, just accept it and &#039;be a good boy&#039;...it seems to me that this is being said by the ruling class to control me and I am not required by Allah to accept a unjust system and to work within it like a slave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question which comes to mind is the concept of &#39;private property&#39; and the Islamic perspective on this. In the current secular world Muslims in the west just assume that the laws regarding private property, being a landlord and renting out a house for profit are the same as Shari&#39;ah laws. However researching the history of the development of the law and contracts regarding private property, I have discovered that land was more or less stolen by the State, this created a landless peasant class which become dependent on the land owners for &#39;employment&#39;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mutualist.org/id4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mutualist.org/id4.html</a><br />Arthur Young, a Lincolnshire gentleman, described the commons as &#8220;a breeding-ground for &#39;barbarians,&#39; &#39;nursing up a mischievous race of people&#39;.&#8221; &#8220;[E]very one but an idiot knows,&#8221; he wrote, &#8220;that the lower classes must be kept poor, or they will never be industrious.&#8221; The Commercial and Agricultural Magazine warned in 1800 that leaving the laborer &#8220;possessed of more land than his family can cultivate in the evenings&#8221; meant that &#8220;the farmer can no longer depend on him for constant work.&#8221; [Thompson, The Making of the English Working Class, 219-220, 358]. </p>
<p>I am told under Islamic law prevents such a situation because all of the land is owned by the Kalifah, who then gives it to people who use it and when it is not used or cultivated it cannot be rented out by them to others. Some non Muslims who see the secular system as inherently unjust have suggested that land and houses etc. cannot be rented out unless they are occupied, no absentee landlords&#8230;.is this &#39;Islamic&#39; can someone clarify the Islamic position on this for me?</p>
<p>In the present climate because we have to pay huge taxes to the State, the money we use is created by a banking cartel (it looses its value through &#39;inflation&#39;) we have all become very &#39;selfish&#39; and atomised and isolated, we need to create strong communities where we all look out for each other&#8230;and this story highlights one of the ways in which Islam can be a means to that end, but the rest of Islam needs to be known, with regard to its rules of government, its rules regarding employment, and private property.</p>
<p>So far I have received a simplistic &#39;just accept everything and be a good boy&#39; type explanations from my local imaams. I think these imaams lack knowledge of how the world is actually ruled today. Employers largely rob and over work their employees through the contracts, saying &#39;get a job somewhere else&#39; is not really an option because the whole unfair thing has been created by the bosses and is tilted to work in their favour. If Islamic law just says yes, just accept it and &#39;be a good boy&#39;&#8230;it seems to me that this is being said by the ruling class to control me and I am not required by Allah to accept a unjust system and to work within it like a slave.</p>
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		By: umm m		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[please watch this video&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5kek3D-4I&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5kek3D-4I&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;forbidden, 2:173, 5:3, 6:121, 6:145, 16:115&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;002.173&lt;br&gt;YUSUFALI: He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For Allah is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please watch this video</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5kek3D-4I" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5kek3D-4I</a></p>
<p>forbidden, 2:173, 5:3, 6:121, 6:145, 16:115</p>
<p>002.173<br />YUSUFALI: He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For Allah is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful.</p>
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		By: Dawud Israel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawud Israel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[:D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>😀</p>
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		By: Ibrahim Z Mohammad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ibrahim Z Mohammad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jazaak Allaah khayr shaykh, that was a beautiful reminder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazaak Allaah khayr shaykh, that was a beautiful reminder.</p>
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