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		By: Nabeel Azeez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nabeel Azeez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As&#039;salamu alaikum warahmatullah.

This is an extremely poor piece of writing. Grammatical and spelling errors abound. Why was this article not proof-read before uploading?

Aside from this, a number of extremely vague statements and ideas are presented. It reads like a mash-up of random conjecture.

The only thing specific that stands out, and alarmingly so, is an unjustified and somewhat audacious claim to reject the Islamic teaching of Hijra and reject working towards establishing a unified Islamic state (Caliphate.)

On what authority does the author make this ijtihad, and based on which evidences?

Meanwhile, if we go by personal experience and what we see in the media, what little Deen Western Muslims were hanging on to is slowly wasting away.

This can&#039;t be more obvious in the next generation of Muslim youth, who are becoming increasingly detached from their Deen. Who can blame them? The onslaught of the culture of kufr, coupled with the revisionism of the munafiqeen is unrelenting.

It is in this minefield that you wish to &quot;stay and build.&quot; While you&#039;re laying a few bricks, the foundation is being washed away (i.e. your kids are apostatizing, either explicitly or implicitly.)

If you want to benefit society, why not expend your efforts in the Muslim lands? Aren&#039;t your brothers and sisters in faith more deserving your benevolent energies?

Furthermore, why would a Muslim want himself or his family present in a situation whereby his ability to hold on to his Deen is comprimised? This is what we&#039;re seeing, Muslims are staying (allegedly) for &quot;da&#039;wah&quot; at the expense of Tawheed.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As&#8217;salamu alaikum warahmatullah.</p>
<p>This is an extremely poor piece of writing. Grammatical and spelling errors abound. Why was this article not proof-read before uploading?</p>
<p>Aside from this, a number of extremely vague statements and ideas are presented. It reads like a mash-up of random conjecture.</p>
<p>The only thing specific that stands out, and alarmingly so, is an unjustified and somewhat audacious claim to reject the Islamic teaching of Hijra and reject working towards establishing a unified Islamic state (Caliphate.)</p>
<p>On what authority does the author make this ijtihad, and based on which evidences?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, if we go by personal experience and what we see in the media, what little Deen Western Muslims were hanging on to is slowly wasting away.</p>
<p>This can&#8217;t be more obvious in the next generation of Muslim youth, who are becoming increasingly detached from their Deen. Who can blame them? The onslaught of the culture of kufr, coupled with the revisionism of the munafiqeen is unrelenting.</p>
<p>It is in this minefield that you wish to &#8220;stay and build.&#8221; While you&#8217;re laying a few bricks, the foundation is being washed away (i.e. your kids are apostatizing, either explicitly or implicitly.)</p>
<p>If you want to benefit society, why not expend your efforts in the Muslim lands? Aren&#8217;t your brothers and sisters in faith more deserving your benevolent energies?</p>
<p>Furthermore, why would a Muslim want himself or his family present in a situation whereby his ability to hold on to his Deen is comprimised? This is what we&#8217;re seeing, Muslims are staying (allegedly) for &#8220;da&#8217;wah&#8221; at the expense of Tawheed.</p>
<p>Seems like a no-brainer to me.</p>
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		By: Tariq Nelson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tariq Nelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[as-salaam alaykum

&lt;blockquote&gt;a.) the subtle and emerging problem between immigrants and indigenous Muslims.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am assuming by &quot;immigrant&quot; you mean immigrants and their children/grandchildren and by indigenous you mean converts and their children/grandchildren.

With this particular &quot;problem&quot;, I think that we have reached a point where many of the indigenous Muslims have simply thrown their hand ups and would rather no longer engage. The voices of the &#039;indigenous&#039; have been drowned out and rendered meaningless  - unless they are mouth pieces for the &#039;immigrants&#039;. Whenever someone tries to speak about converts or indigenous and their problems it is taken to be &quot;whining&quot; and they are blown off. So it has reached a point where many of the indigenous have given up and don&#039;t care enough to even fight for a seat at the table anymore.

Now &quot;giving up&quot; can mean anything from no longer participating in community activities to outright apostasy (point &#039;e&#039; in your post above). Whatever the case, the indigenous feel ostracized and I am finding that more and more would rather not be bothered at all. I am also finding that more and more &#039;immigrants&#039; do not care to hear about this too.

The point I am making is that in order for there to be a &quot;problem&quot; or conflict, both sides have to be present. There is not conflict when only one side is there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as-salaam alaykum</p>
<blockquote><p>a.) the subtle and emerging problem between immigrants and indigenous Muslims.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am assuming by &#8220;immigrant&#8221; you mean immigrants and their children/grandchildren and by indigenous you mean converts and their children/grandchildren.</p>
<p>With this particular &#8220;problem&#8221;, I think that we have reached a point where many of the indigenous Muslims have simply thrown their hand ups and would rather no longer engage. The voices of the &#8216;indigenous&#8217; have been drowned out and rendered meaningless  &#8211; unless they are mouth pieces for the &#8216;immigrants&#8217;. Whenever someone tries to speak about converts or indigenous and their problems it is taken to be &#8220;whining&#8221; and they are blown off. So it has reached a point where many of the indigenous have given up and don&#8217;t care enough to even fight for a seat at the table anymore.</p>
<p>Now &#8220;giving up&#8221; can mean anything from no longer participating in community activities to outright apostasy (point &#8216;e&#8217; in your post above). Whatever the case, the indigenous feel ostracized and I am finding that more and more would rather not be bothered at all. I am also finding that more and more &#8216;immigrants&#8217; do not care to hear about this too.</p>
<p>The point I am making is that in order for there to be a &#8220;problem&#8221; or conflict, both sides have to be present. There is not conflict when only one side is there.</p>
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		By: Abu Adam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abu Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How would you define post-traditionalism?  Would it be a meeting point between the Salafis and Traditionalists?  Is it an informed muslim who has achieved Islamic literacy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you define post-traditionalism?  Would it be a meeting point between the Salafis and Traditionalists?  Is it an informed muslim who has achieved Islamic literacy?</p>
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		By: maryam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maryam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jezak Allahu Khayran; really appreciate the points made on this post]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jezak Allahu Khayran; really appreciate the points made on this post</p>
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		By: JB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh and my comment was at Aby Yusuf&#039;s comment and not the article directly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and my comment was at Aby Yusuf&#8217;s comment and not the article directly</p>
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		By: JB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tranquility in our hearts and movement in our limbs ;)

The issue is that all this movement is without direction, real leadership, and connectedness with Allah and the example of His Messenger (pbuh), in my opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tranquility in our hearts and movement in our limbs 😉</p>
<p>The issue is that all this movement is without direction, real leadership, and connectedness with Allah and the example of His Messenger (pbuh), in my opinion.</p>
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		By: Abu Yusuf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abu Yusuf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Salams


All this talk of Islamic &quot;Movement/Revolution/Reform/Action&quot; etc...many will argue that what the Ummah needs is more &quot;Stillness/Calm/Tranquility&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salams</p>
<p>All this talk of Islamic &#8220;Movement/Revolution/Reform/Action&#8221; etc&#8230;many will argue that what the Ummah needs is more &#8220;Stillness/Calm/Tranquility&#8221;.</p>
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