Sister Fatimah. Did you take bayat with Sheikh Nuh in the end? I am an ex murid and can tell you after 10 years in that cult , STAY AWAY!

coming of prophet saws soul is permanent acc to imam suyuti (ra)…. and also logically, millions of ppl say salam on prophet saws at every time, so there cannot be any time ,weher his soul is out of his body

salam, could you tell us what happened?
Im interesting in taking bahay with the shaykh but all of these posts are freaking me out!

I find this comment immensely strange. I was in Jordan for about 3 months, the zawiya had classes on the biography of the prophet, peace upon him- one in arabic taught by a brother and one in english taught by a sister. Umm Sahl taught a class on tafsir and one on tassawuf, Umm Khayr taught a class on raising Muslim children. Sheikh Nuh translated the Umdat Ul Salik, a shariah manuscript -anyone who believes he doing something against the law could use his on manual to refute him! On marriage I’ve heard Umm Khayr say if your marriage isn’t helping you be a better Muslim you should leave it. Sheikh Nuh has said a woman is allowed to leave her husband if he’s “making her his business… driving her crazy”. Sheikh Nuh encourages his students to learn islamic law -both hanafi and shafi was taught in the zawiya and to learn arabic. Where people memorizing quran? Well this isn’t a quran school nor are we obligated to memorize quran but rather to implement it’s meaning.
Yes, by a comment Umm Sahl made it was obvious to me that she wasn’t strongly against women being “knocked around” by there husbands but this is her personal view she is not the sheikh. The sheikh- murid relationship is voluntary, anyone who wants out can simply stop following the sheikh’s advice and stop doing the wird of the tariqa. I’ve listened to numerous lectures by sheik Nuh at the Zawiya and online, from my own experience I wish there were more people on the path like sheikh Nuh and his mureeds.
I would encourage anyone to go to Jordan to visit Shekh Nuh, listen to his lectures online and make there own opinion.

Al-salaamu Alaikum!

I lived in Raleigh for sometime and I found the imams of the Islamic Association of Raleigh (raleighmasjid.org) to be quite moderate, knowledgeable, and approachable. Please contact them directly for a meeting, particularly Imam Sameh, as he is recently much more involved with the community than our second imam (who is also wonderful)–if you’ve already tried this, or would prefer to speak to laymen as opposed to religious leaders, please let me know; Alhamdulillah I have lots of friends in Raleigh. May Allah guide us always to truth, Amin!

To Unfazed:

Your statements are a proof of the claims against your ‘group’. They are also shockingly cruel and evil.

Your impetus is a threat to non-Muslims and Muslims alike.

See you then.

Raleigh, NC
Thank you.

Walaikumassalaam.

If you can tell us what city you are from, maybe I can guide to a knowledgeable person who holds the correct view and practice of Islam.

After I converted to Islam, I took classes on Sunnipath because I never was able to find any other Muslim friends or a nice mosque. I learned my Islam from them, and then I joined the tariqa. I ended up having a horrible experience with the Shaykh and his mureeds, and I have never been able to get over it. It has been a few years, but because I was a new Muslim, I have never been able to understand even what happened, or what I did that made it permissible for them to break my soul. Is there anywhere that I can go or anyone that I can talk to about this? As a result of this experience, I have a severe phobia of Muslims, and I just want to get over it so that I can get them out of my mind and move on with my life. Thanks.

Interesting. The sister relayed her experience in the tariqa. Yet you, sister, responded with defensiveness, character assassination, since you seem to know who the sister is, slander and as an afterthought, “that being said,…too bad you were bashed for years..”

Seem fair to you?

Also, it should have been the shaykh’s, indeed, any practicing muslim’s job to interfere, if violence was revealed. It did not happen, by the sounds of it.

I’d like to know, Sr Unfazed, if that was you, putting aside your adoration of your shaykh, would you have been justified in questioning as this sister did? Being angry? Especially when she sought clarification “in case it was my misunderstanding”, and was rebuffed?

Where’s the humanity in this group, if this was your response?

At the time of the prophet, sas and the khulafa, women used to publicly stand up and complain, or give naseeha, and they were man enough to listen. Why is any shaykh in this day and age exempt from that self reflection?

As to proof, maybe if Sr Unfazed provides her details, she may find that Sr Ex-Mureeda can provide it to her and to any other sincere mureeds.

May Allah watch over us all, especially those most vulnerable, whose rights are nonetheless violated by others, however well meaning.