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		By: Umm Sulaiman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umm Sulaiman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As salamualykum JazakAllahukhairn for a beneficial reminder. I think people kind of go off track because they seem to misunderstand certain things like discipline, being firm, being gentle, letting children do whatever whenever and however.

Or perhaps i have misunderstood those terms.
For example some people never seem to correct or advise their children. i have noticed even litte kids will pay attention or listen to something, but if the adults around them never correct themselves then the child wont either, the first lesson is correcting oneself.

when you have kids you suddenly reaslise, gosh i must do that/ or say that because my kids have been around me all the time and have picked it up from me!

you cant tell kids not to do something and then do it yourself, or vice versa.  children imitate what they see and hear not what people tell them to &#039;do this or do that&#039;

discipline does not mean hitting or shouting.

theres a nice blog called disciplinewithoutdisrespecting by grandma jeddah for anyone interested you can google it.

wasalam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As salamualykum JazakAllahukhairn for a beneficial reminder. I think people kind of go off track because they seem to misunderstand certain things like discipline, being firm, being gentle, letting children do whatever whenever and however.</p>
<p>Or perhaps i have misunderstood those terms.<br />
For example some people never seem to correct or advise their children. i have noticed even litte kids will pay attention or listen to something, but if the adults around them never correct themselves then the child wont either, the first lesson is correcting oneself.</p>
<p>when you have kids you suddenly reaslise, gosh i must do that/ or say that because my kids have been around me all the time and have picked it up from me!</p>
<p>you cant tell kids not to do something and then do it yourself, or vice versa.  children imitate what they see and hear not what people tell them to &#8216;do this or do that&#8217;</p>
<p>discipline does not mean hitting or shouting.</p>
<p>theres a nice blog called disciplinewithoutdisrespecting by grandma jeddah for anyone interested you can google it.</p>
<p>wasalam</p>
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		By: Toufik		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SubhanAllah Abdel Rahman, did not know you wrote articles too. May Allah reward you for your efforts inshAllah. See you on friday hopefully :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SubhanAllah Abdel Rahman, did not know you wrote articles too. May Allah reward you for your efforts inshAllah. See you on friday hopefully 🙂</p>
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		By: 2011 Year in Review: Suhaibwebb.com		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2011 Year in Review: Suhaibwebb.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Thoughts on Parenting by AbdelRahman Mussa [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Thoughts on Parenting by AbdelRahman Mussa [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Hijabish		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hijabish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mashallah.... Brother, your tips are so simple and easy. May Allah give  barakat in ur dawat work for deen .... Ameen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mashallah&#8230;. Brother, your tips are so simple and easy. May Allah give  barakat in ur dawat work for deen &#8230;. Ameen</p>
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		By: AR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25116&quot;&gt;AR&lt;/a&gt;.

Salamu Alaykom wa Rahmatullah

please see reply to sister Wafa below.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25116">AR</a>.</p>
<p>Salamu Alaykom wa Rahmatullah</p>
<p>please see reply to sister Wafa below.</p>
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		By: AR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25124&quot;&gt;Wafa&lt;/a&gt;.

wa Alaykom Assalam sister Wafa,

After some research, It seems that there are three opinions about this:

1- Ali (RAA) said it
2- Omar (RAA) said it
3- One of the salaf said it but we don&#039;t quite know who

The statement is found in different books, but without reference... and more than one of my Shuyukh had mentioned it while I was studying so I didn&#039;t think to reference it for myself.

My apologies for not verifying exactly where it was from.

Insha Allah it is still useful. From experience, children do need to be treated differently in those three stages, wallahu a&#039;lam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25124">Wafa</a>.</p>
<p>wa Alaykom Assalam sister Wafa,</p>
<p>After some research, It seems that there are three opinions about this:</p>
<p>1- Ali (RAA) said it<br />
2- Omar (RAA) said it<br />
3- One of the salaf said it but we don&#8217;t quite know who</p>
<p>The statement is found in different books, but without reference&#8230; and more than one of my Shuyukh had mentioned it while I was studying so I didn&#8217;t think to reference it for myself.</p>
<p>My apologies for not verifying exactly where it was from.</p>
<p>Insha Allah it is still useful. From experience, children do need to be treated differently in those three stages, wallahu a&#8217;lam.</p>
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		By: Wafa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wafa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assalamu Alaikum,

Can you please share your sources for the &quot;three stages&quot;. You reference the following: &quot;The fourth Khalifah, Ali (ra) advised us to play with our children till the age of 7, to discipline and teach them from the age of 7 to 14 and to BEFRIEND them at the age of 14+.&quot; but my husband says he has read that Omar (ra) said it.

Jazak Allahu Khairan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu Alaikum,</p>
<p>Can you please share your sources for the &#8220;three stages&#8221;. You reference the following: &#8220;The fourth Khalifah, Ali (ra) advised us to play with our children till the age of 7, to discipline and teach them from the age of 7 to 14 and to BEFRIEND them at the age of 14+.&#8221; but my husband says he has read that Omar (ra) said it.</p>
<p>Jazak Allahu Khairan</p>
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		By: Icthyo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Icthyo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I do agree with your statements.  From my own experiences with my children I can tell you that parenting entails doing all of the above.  One thing I have to say is how important it is to talk with them rather than only talking to them.  This is important even before the age of 14.  Children are often a lot smarter than some adults make them out to be - just remember the things we would have thought of as we experienced life when we were their age.

Although they are growing up in a different era I believe the principles of parenting remain the same, only the way in which we impart the values to our children may change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do agree with your statements.  From my own experiences with my children I can tell you that parenting entails doing all of the above.  One thing I have to say is how important it is to talk with them rather than only talking to them.  This is important even before the age of 14.  Children are often a lot smarter than some adults make them out to be &#8211; just remember the things we would have thought of as we experienced life when we were their age.</p>
<p>Although they are growing up in a different era I believe the principles of parenting remain the same, only the way in which we impart the values to our children may change.</p>
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		By: AR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25120&quot;&gt;Sarah&lt;/a&gt;.

BarakAllahu feeki... you highlighted the most important points :-) Jazakillah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25120">Sarah</a>.</p>
<p>BarakAllahu feeki&#8230; you highlighted the most important points 🙂 Jazakillah</p>
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		By: AR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25117&quot;&gt;Naz&lt;/a&gt;.

BarakAllah feeki,

Let me share a story with you:
I know a man who brought his child up in a peculiar way... he would say to him before they ate anything: &quot;If you don&#039;t finish your ice-cream, you&#039;re not going to have any salad !&quot;

This same kid... now well into his thirties... if you ask him whether or not he wants ice-cream, his reply is: &quot;no I&#039;d rather a salad, thanks &quot;

(this is just an example... it&#039;s the point that I&#039;m making that is the point of focus - not the ice cream !)

So the point I&#039;m trying to make is: you&#039;re the parent, you have huge moulding power.

Or to put it another way: how would the father in the example above have rewarded his son for going shopping ?
You would answer: shopping was his reward !

... but how did the kid realise that it was a reward ?
Because the parent framed it as such :-)

Hope this helps !
AbdelRahman]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/relationships/marriage-family/children-marriage-family/thoughts-on-parenting/#comment-25117">Naz</a>.</p>
<p>BarakAllah feeki,</p>
<p>Let me share a story with you:<br />
I know a man who brought his child up in a peculiar way&#8230; he would say to him before they ate anything: &#8220;If you don&#8217;t finish your ice-cream, you&#8217;re not going to have any salad !&#8221;</p>
<p>This same kid&#8230; now well into his thirties&#8230; if you ask him whether or not he wants ice-cream, his reply is: &#8220;no I&#8217;d rather a salad, thanks &#8221;</p>
<p>(this is just an example&#8230; it&#8217;s the point that I&#8217;m making that is the point of focus &#8211; not the ice cream !)</p>
<p>So the point I&#8217;m trying to make is: you&#8217;re the parent, you have huge moulding power.</p>
<p>Or to put it another way: how would the father in the example above have rewarded his son for going shopping ?<br />
You would answer: shopping was his reward !</p>
<p>&#8230; but how did the kid realise that it was a reward ?<br />
Because the parent framed it as such 🙂</p>
<p>Hope this helps !<br />
AbdelRahman</p>
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