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		By: Sayzeem		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[1. Why was this even a surprise? Did anyone seriously think that post 9/11 there wouldn&#039;t be spying on American Muslims? I can&#039;t understand why people are so shocked by this.

2. As a Muslims, I have no problem with law enforcement spying on me, as long as it&#039;s in a public place (i.e. don&#039;t bug my private property without a warrant). Look, we don&#039;t have anything to hide. Are they detaining us? No. Are they physically threatening us? No. If in fact all they did was OBSERVE our PUBLIC BEHAVIOR, then what exactly is the issue? Who exactly got hurt because of this spying? The most that&#039;ll happen is that some agent is going to realize that we are in fact advocates of peace and justice. 

3. As much as I disagree with the point of view of this particular outcry, I STRONGLY RESPECT the fact that you are making your voice heard. We as Muslims need to take a more proactive role as American citizens. That means getting involved in our communities and being part of the social and political processes. Whatever our view may be, please let&#039;s not sit on our couches and complain. Vote, write, advocate, whatever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Why was this even a surprise? Did anyone seriously think that post 9/11 there wouldn&#8217;t be spying on American Muslims? I can&#8217;t understand why people are so shocked by this.</p>
<p>2. As a Muslims, I have no problem with law enforcement spying on me, as long as it&#8217;s in a public place (i.e. don&#8217;t bug my private property without a warrant). Look, we don&#8217;t have anything to hide. Are they detaining us? No. Are they physically threatening us? No. If in fact all they did was OBSERVE our PUBLIC BEHAVIOR, then what exactly is the issue? Who exactly got hurt because of this spying? The most that&#8217;ll happen is that some agent is going to realize that we are in fact advocates of peace and justice. </p>
<p>3. As much as I disagree with the point of view of this particular outcry, I STRONGLY RESPECT the fact that you are making your voice heard. We as Muslims need to take a more proactive role as American citizens. That means getting involved in our communities and being part of the social and political processes. Whatever our view may be, please let&#8217;s not sit on our couches and complain. Vote, write, advocate, whatever.</p>
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		By: strivinggratitude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/activism-and-civil-rights/spying-is-not-ok-no-matter-what-the-polls-say/#comment-34694&quot;&gt;Mae&lt;/a&gt;.

Assalaamu Alaikum Mae. 

First let me say that this comment is intended for all to read but relates a little bit more closely with the comment you left. Also, this is not a criticism of your post at all, just some thoughts that arose from reading it.

I understand why you&#039;re uncomfortable with donations coming from people in Saudi Arabia. Through mass media, we have become conditioned to assume the worst of any good that comes from that region. These suspicions may be well founded in some cases, and not in other cases. 

I do have to say that this rhetoric about the &quot;us and them&quot; between the muslims is incredibly unsettling. For example, you talk about those stricter muslims who are really passionate about dawah, and you also talk about welcoming the police officers with open arms (which I actually do partially agree with) and showing them how many different types of muslims there are. 

The thing is, there have always been different mind sets among Muslims. For example, we should reflect on why there are the four great Imams, who differed with each other on certain things, but all really respected one another. It has only been until recently that the division among Muslims has accelerated to such an extent that this rhetoric and mindset is being perpetuated with our own words. And we don&#039;t even realize it half the time! 

The tactic is simple: Divide and Conquer. That is exactly what islamophobic organizations are successfully doing every time we imply that one group of Muslims is &quot;good&quot; and the other is &quot;bad.&quot; The world just isn&#039;t that simple. 

After reading this article and contemplating about the direction that the ummah is going, I was a little bit heart-broken. I opened the Quran to read Al-Shura (Consultation) because that is simply where I had left off last. SubhanAllah, the surah couldn&#039;t have addressed my concerns more clearly. 

The middle of verse 13 reads &quot;Uphold the faith and do not divide into factions within it.&quot; Then continues on to say, &quot;They divided, out of rivalry, only after knowledge had come to them, and, if it had not been for a decree already passed by your Lord to reprieve them until an appointed time, they would have already been judged.&quot; It then goes on to say that there should be no argument between Muslims. The surah also emphasizes that the prophet was only sent down to deliver a message. 

I&#039;m not very religious (unfortunately), but I think it is especially important for the ummah to join together and turn to Allah swt and trust in him during these times. InshaAllah that&#039;s what will happen, rather than us turning our backs on each other and dividing up into even more factions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/activism-and-civil-rights/spying-is-not-ok-no-matter-what-the-polls-say/#comment-34694">Mae</a>.</p>
<p>Assalaamu Alaikum Mae. </p>
<p>First let me say that this comment is intended for all to read but relates a little bit more closely with the comment you left. Also, this is not a criticism of your post at all, just some thoughts that arose from reading it.</p>
<p>I understand why you&#8217;re uncomfortable with donations coming from people in Saudi Arabia. Through mass media, we have become conditioned to assume the worst of any good that comes from that region. These suspicions may be well founded in some cases, and not in other cases. </p>
<p>I do have to say that this rhetoric about the &#8220;us and them&#8221; between the muslims is incredibly unsettling. For example, you talk about those stricter muslims who are really passionate about dawah, and you also talk about welcoming the police officers with open arms (which I actually do partially agree with) and showing them how many different types of muslims there are. </p>
<p>The thing is, there have always been different mind sets among Muslims. For example, we should reflect on why there are the four great Imams, who differed with each other on certain things, but all really respected one another. It has only been until recently that the division among Muslims has accelerated to such an extent that this rhetoric and mindset is being perpetuated with our own words. And we don&#8217;t even realize it half the time! </p>
<p>The tactic is simple: Divide and Conquer. That is exactly what islamophobic organizations are successfully doing every time we imply that one group of Muslims is &#8220;good&#8221; and the other is &#8220;bad.&#8221; The world just isn&#8217;t that simple. </p>
<p>After reading this article and contemplating about the direction that the ummah is going, I was a little bit heart-broken. I opened the Quran to read Al-Shura (Consultation) because that is simply where I had left off last. SubhanAllah, the surah couldn&#8217;t have addressed my concerns more clearly. </p>
<p>The middle of verse 13 reads &#8220;Uphold the faith and do not divide into factions within it.&#8221; Then continues on to say, &#8220;They divided, out of rivalry, only after knowledge had come to them, and, if it had not been for a decree already passed by your Lord to reprieve them until an appointed time, they would have already been judged.&#8221; It then goes on to say that there should be no argument between Muslims. The surah also emphasizes that the prophet was only sent down to deliver a message. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not very religious (unfortunately), but I think it is especially important for the ummah to join together and turn to Allah swt and trust in him during these times. InshaAllah that&#8217;s what will happen, rather than us turning our backs on each other and dividing up into even more factions.</p>
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		By: Dar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[what does a Muslim do, if he is threatened by the FBI to spy on another Muslim?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what does a Muslim do, if he is threatened by the FBI to spy on another Muslim?</p>
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		By: Mae		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have very mixed feelings about the MSA spying case. I belonged to an MSA at a major university in DC and our MSA definitely received large sums of money from Saudis and other rich Arabs who were not students of the University. Some of these individuals even recruited students jobs in engineering/comp science in Saudi Arabia after graduation. I&#039;m not trying to imply that these acts of charity were shady or subversive to the govt, but I still found it to be very odd. This was, of course, over 10 years ago in a pre-9/11 environment. But to deny that MSAs attract certain radical elements or individuals is wrong. In EVERY MSA there are those few individuals who are hardline Muslims who want to convert as many non-muslims on campus as possible and work on making those liberal and moderate muslims more conservative and practicing of their deen. Sometimes these hardliner Muslims can guilt trip other students into a radicalized view of Islam, which can result in dangerous ideas and thoughts. This is not to say that every radical Muslim is danger or a threat to Americans or society. Muslims in America have the right to practice Islam to whatever degree they feel comfortable. On the other hand, we must take into consideration that it is the FBI&#039;s job to protect American citizens -- including Muslim American citizens. If they feel the need to spy on MSA activities, and MSAs have nothing to hide (which they shouldn&#039;t) then we should be welcoming them with open arms. Let them learn about Islam and learn about Muslims. Let them learn about the different types of Muslims (liberal, moderate, conservative, indifferent, etc) that live and work in our country and all the good things that MSAs do for their universities and communities. And PLEASE, let us not get sidetracked by these little juicy tidbits like &quot;the FBI is seducing our sisters.&quot; Seriously? If you are genuinely concerned about the FBI&#039;s monitoring activities, let&#039;s focus on the civil rights issues and not turn this into a bad reality show. Reality is a hard enough pill to swallow as it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have very mixed feelings about the MSA spying case. I belonged to an MSA at a major university in DC and our MSA definitely received large sums of money from Saudis and other rich Arabs who were not students of the University. Some of these individuals even recruited students jobs in engineering/comp science in Saudi Arabia after graduation. I&#8217;m not trying to imply that these acts of charity were shady or subversive to the govt, but I still found it to be very odd. This was, of course, over 10 years ago in a pre-9/11 environment. But to deny that MSAs attract certain radical elements or individuals is wrong. In EVERY MSA there are those few individuals who are hardline Muslims who want to convert as many non-muslims on campus as possible and work on making those liberal and moderate muslims more conservative and practicing of their deen. Sometimes these hardliner Muslims can guilt trip other students into a radicalized view of Islam, which can result in dangerous ideas and thoughts. This is not to say that every radical Muslim is danger or a threat to Americans or society. Muslims in America have the right to practice Islam to whatever degree they feel comfortable. On the other hand, we must take into consideration that it is the FBI&#8217;s job to protect American citizens &#8212; including Muslim American citizens. If they feel the need to spy on MSA activities, and MSAs have nothing to hide (which they shouldn&#8217;t) then we should be welcoming them with open arms. Let them learn about Islam and learn about Muslims. Let them learn about the different types of Muslims (liberal, moderate, conservative, indifferent, etc) that live and work in our country and all the good things that MSAs do for their universities and communities. And PLEASE, let us not get sidetracked by these little juicy tidbits like &#8220;the FBI is seducing our sisters.&#8221; Seriously? If you are genuinely concerned about the FBI&#8217;s monitoring activities, let&#8217;s focus on the civil rights issues and not turn this into a bad reality show. Reality is a hard enough pill to swallow as it is.</p>
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		By: Justin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please try to remember that for every bad, stupid cop there are more good cops who put their lives on the line to defend innocent people, Muslim or not. We are disturbed by some voices who have condemned the entire force while they do not acknowledge the good work being done.

Abu Hurairah reported: The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said:

 لاَ يَشْكُرُ اللَّهَ مَنْ لاَ يَشْكُرُ النَّاسَ

“He has not thanked Allah who has not thanked people.”

[Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 40, Number 4811]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please try to remember that for every bad, stupid cop there are more good cops who put their lives on the line to defend innocent people, Muslim or not. We are disturbed by some voices who have condemned the entire force while they do not acknowledge the good work being done.</p>
<p>Abu Hurairah reported: The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said:</p>
<p> لاَ يَشْكُرُ اللَّهَ مَنْ لاَ يَشْكُرُ النَّاسَ</p>
<p>“He has not thanked Allah who has not thanked people.”</p>
<p>[Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 40, Number 4811]</p>
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		By: Yaqub		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very profound and educational article...thank you for the share.

You brought up a good point in that the tactics and reasoning behind the tactics aren&#039;t vile only because they are being used on some Muslims...but they are vile on principle and moral basis...it is wrong irregardless of religion, race, creed, ethnicity, culture, national origin, gender, marital status, sexual orientation, handicap status, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very profound and educational article&#8230;thank you for the share.</p>
<p>You brought up a good point in that the tactics and reasoning behind the tactics aren&#8217;t vile only because they are being used on some Muslims&#8230;but they are vile on principle and moral basis&#8230;it is wrong irregardless of religion, race, creed, ethnicity, culture, national origin, gender, marital status, sexual orientation, handicap status, etc.</p>
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		By: Yasmin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jazakallah khair for shedding light on this very important issue! I completely agree that just because one public opinion poll is showing approval of this program it certainly doesn&#039;t mean its the right thing to. I&#039;ve learned from my American History class that during the time of slavery in the U.S. not every southerner had a slave but a lot of southerners were in favor of this cruel practice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazakallah khair for shedding light on this very important issue! I completely agree that just because one public opinion poll is showing approval of this program it certainly doesn&#8217;t mean its the right thing to. I&#8217;ve learned from my American History class that during the time of slavery in the U.S. not every southerner had a slave but a lot of southerners were in favor of this cruel practice.</p>
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