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		By: The Centre for Islam and Medicine &#187; Science and Islam: Rethinking the Relationship		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Centre for Islam and Medicine &#187; Science and Islam: Rethinking the Relationship]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] (taken from http://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationshi&#8230;) [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (taken from <a href="http://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationshi&#038;#8230" rel="ugc">http://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationshi&#038;#8230</a>😉 [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Adnan Javed		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15038</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adnan Javed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 02:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15022&quot;&gt;loveProphet&lt;/a&gt;.

What exactly are your qualifications to talk about the function of the appendix? Have you done a pubmed search on it and gone through all the current research on it? I can&#039;t take anything you write on the topic seriously because you aren&#039;t well versed in even the basics of scientific research.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15022">loveProphet</a>.</p>
<p>What exactly are your qualifications to talk about the function of the appendix? Have you done a pubmed search on it and gone through all the current research on it? I can&#8217;t take anything you write on the topic seriously because you aren&#8217;t well versed in even the basics of scientific research.</p>
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		By: Adnan Javed		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15037</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adnan Javed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 02:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15017&quot;&gt;loveProphet&lt;/a&gt;.

I really have to disagree with what you are saying here - the article makes an EXCELLENT point. Your statement disagreeing with the fact that evolutionary theory is well-supported smacks of ignorance. Have you taken the time to actually go through the volumes of evidence supporting the ideas he&#039;s mentioned (specifically genetic drift and genetic shift)?

His line about us retreating to the same line of thought as Evangelical Christians is highly pertinent.

Loveprophet, reading your arguments against human evolution prove to me only 2 things: 1. You have very little understanding of Genetics and anthropology 2. You know very little about the fossil record and geology. Would you speak so boldly about Islam if you were so ignorant of Islamic knowledge? What makes you think you can start arguing against a well established theory like natural selection if you have very little experience studying it? (I assume you have very little experience studying based on the fact that you talked to a &quot;biology teacher&quot; about it)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15017">loveProphet</a>.</p>
<p>I really have to disagree with what you are saying here &#8211; the article makes an EXCELLENT point. Your statement disagreeing with the fact that evolutionary theory is well-supported smacks of ignorance. Have you taken the time to actually go through the volumes of evidence supporting the ideas he&#8217;s mentioned (specifically genetic drift and genetic shift)?</p>
<p>His line about us retreating to the same line of thought as Evangelical Christians is highly pertinent.</p>
<p>Loveprophet, reading your arguments against human evolution prove to me only 2 things: 1. You have very little understanding of Genetics and anthropology 2. You know very little about the fossil record and geology. Would you speak so boldly about Islam if you were so ignorant of Islamic knowledge? What makes you think you can start arguing against a well established theory like natural selection if you have very little experience studying it? (I assume you have very little experience studying based on the fact that you talked to a &#8220;biology teacher&#8221; about it)</p>
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		By: Amaan		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amaan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[:O
Finally someone knows what they are talking about!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:O<br />
Finally someone knows what they are talking about!!</p>
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		By: Shadi Ibn Ahmad Sayyid		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shadi Ibn Ahmad Sayyid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Asalamu alaikum wr wb.

   The approach to science is extremely simple. We interpret science according to Islam,we do not change meanings in the Qur&#039;an to fit science. When you do this,you will indeed find that the Qur&#039;an stands flawless regardless of what some zealous atheists and Christians will tell you with their &quot;Greek imitation&quot; claims. I have studied this topic for about 7 years and I have also studied tafseer,and I can tell you that this topic has been exaggerated ten fold.

  Like wise when philosophers tried to change the meanings of the Qur&#039;an,now the science minded Muslims are attempting to do the same.

  Please read this part very carefully. Science back then was a series of guesses that were dependent on limited observation. The Qur&#039;an is miraculous in this area because **it speaks about the unseen and seen facts about nature yet remains spotless**.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu alaikum wr wb.</p>
<p>   The approach to science is extremely simple. We interpret science according to Islam,we do not change meanings in the Qur&#8217;an to fit science. When you do this,you will indeed find that the Qur&#8217;an stands flawless regardless of what some zealous atheists and Christians will tell you with their &#8220;Greek imitation&#8221; claims. I have studied this topic for about 7 years and I have also studied tafseer,and I can tell you that this topic has been exaggerated ten fold.</p>
<p>  Like wise when philosophers tried to change the meanings of the Qur&#8217;an,now the science minded Muslims are attempting to do the same.</p>
<p>  Please read this part very carefully. Science back then was a series of guesses that were dependent on limited observation. The Qur&#8217;an is miraculous in this area because **it speaks about the unseen and seen facts about nature yet remains spotless**.</p>
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		By: Marya		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15034</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15033&quot;&gt;kamal&lt;/a&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15033">kamal</a>.</p>
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		By: kamal		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15033</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kamal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 06:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to know if a website moderator could delete my posting of May 10th 2010, because my mother feels it does not represent me in a good manner, considering my usage of arabic transliteration in a slightly juvenile manner.

salam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know if a website moderator could delete my posting of May 10th 2010, because my mother feels it does not represent me in a good manner, considering my usage of arabic transliteration in a slightly juvenile manner.</p>
<p>salam</p>
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		By: kamal		</title>
		<link>https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15032</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kamal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[please remove my posting of may 10th 2010

thank you

-kamal]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please remove my posting of may 10th 2010</p>
<p>thank you</p>
<p>-kamal</p>
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		By: Jeremiah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremiah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 19:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15028&quot;&gt;Dawud Israel&lt;/a&gt;.

AS salamu alaikum Br. Dawud,

I agree with you on one hand. We tend to romanticize the &#039;Golden Age&#039; and pretend every Muslim was like Imam al Qarafi or Imam al Ghazali. However, I find the statement you quoted from Buliet to be a bit strange.

Outside the applicable community, scientific achievements are  always &#039;exceptional&#039;. The statement of Buliet may be easily applied to civilizations from centuries ago up to our current times. The average American has no idea what a semiconductor is, but nearly everyone has been impacted by the advances in semiconductor technology that were largely driven by innovations from American scientists and engineers.   The same can be said for various advancements in different fields.

I may be wrong, but I detect a disturbing trend of downplaying the accomplishments of past Muslim nations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/society/education-and-science/science-and-islam-rethinking-the-relationship/#comment-15028">Dawud Israel</a>.</p>
<p>AS salamu alaikum Br. Dawud,</p>
<p>I agree with you on one hand. We tend to romanticize the &#8216;Golden Age&#8217; and pretend every Muslim was like Imam al Qarafi or Imam al Ghazali. However, I find the statement you quoted from Buliet to be a bit strange.</p>
<p>Outside the applicable community, scientific achievements are  always &#8216;exceptional&#8217;. The statement of Buliet may be easily applied to civilizations from centuries ago up to our current times. The average American has no idea what a semiconductor is, but nearly everyone has been impacted by the advances in semiconductor technology that were largely driven by innovations from American scientists and engineers.   The same can be said for various advancements in different fields.</p>
<p>I may be wrong, but I detect a disturbing trend of downplaying the accomplishments of past Muslim nations.</p>
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		By: al-suyuufi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[al-suyuufi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 19:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There must be a way to incorporate the concepts of genetic drift and genetic shift into Islam.&quot;

Wait what? Since when is Islam supposed to pander to modern science? This is exactly what Dawud was saying in his first comment: &quot;It has become an Islam based on what is outside Islam– those things that barely have even the slightest essence of Islam.&quot;
Instead of saying let&#039;s see IF Islam can support evolution, people now try to MAKE it fit in using ad hoc interpretations of the Quran and Hadith. Instead of making the Quran and Sunnah into the ultimate end, they make evolution (or any theory) the end and Islam the means so that they can feel good about themselves in believing something they already wanted to believe.
There&#039;s a difference between saying that Quran supports Big Bang because there&#039;s a clear Ayah alluding to it, and saying that it support evolution by reinterpreting things based on evolutionary theory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There must be a way to incorporate the concepts of genetic drift and genetic shift into Islam.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait what? Since when is Islam supposed to pander to modern science? This is exactly what Dawud was saying in his first comment: &#8220;It has become an Islam based on what is outside Islam– those things that barely have even the slightest essence of Islam.&#8221;<br />
Instead of saying let&#8217;s see IF Islam can support evolution, people now try to MAKE it fit in using ad hoc interpretations of the Quran and Hadith. Instead of making the Quran and Sunnah into the ultimate end, they make evolution (or any theory) the end and Islam the means so that they can feel good about themselves in believing something they already wanted to believe.<br />
There&#8217;s a difference between saying that Quran supports Big Bang because there&#8217;s a clear Ayah alluding to it, and saying that it support evolution by reinterpreting things based on evolutionary theory.</p>
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