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		By: Fanny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fanny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 05:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19510&quot;&gt;Charles&lt;/a&gt;.

they should scan Daniel Pipes&#039; brain either. He&#039;ll make a good object because the research really describes him lol. But overall this reminds me of the many fanatical anti-Islam people. Look at how they react with hatred emotions, instead of a clear logic. May Allah guide them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19510">Charles</a>.</p>
<p>they should scan Daniel Pipes&#8217; brain either. He&#8217;ll make a good object because the research really describes him lol. But overall this reminds me of the many fanatical anti-Islam people. Look at how they react with hatred emotions, instead of a clear logic. May Allah guide them.</p>
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		By: Kirana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19523&quot;&gt;AJ&lt;/a&gt;.

the &#039;how&#039; matters though. look at how our true scholars do it - in its intellectual tidiness, very close to the scientific method. and sometimes you gotta prioritise your replies based on whether the issue is actually prevalent in your audience, or actually a very minor concern compared to others.

as an example, the hadith on prohibiting hijab where the hair is piled on the back like the hump of a camel. i really haven&#039;t seen many - if any at all - hijabi women in my country who actually do this, so for starters the real target demographic is already tiny. at most, there may be a bump as a side effect of hair being pulled up in a bun for practicality rather than ostentation. and i live in the urban area where perhaps you might see a fashion-focus more. and yet, there are cartoons and stuff passed around condemning them as not hijab. i don&#039;t have the knowledge if this is in context, but it seems odd if the hadith context really meant &#039;any visible hair bun&#039;. and there are cartoons of women who are totally covered up, loose clothing, lowered headscarf with just a tiny ridge at the sides of their heads denoting a bit of visible ear silhouette - the caption/speech balloon condemning this as &#039;not hijab&#039;. there might be an arrow pointing to the ear in case you didn&#039;t notice what might be wrong with the picture.

yet we have many mosques surrounded by housing across the nation blaring out lectures and sermons and taped recitations for several hours a day, every day, in communities where not everyone is Muslim, some people might be sick, small children may be asleep, or people have abnormal sleep/shift work patterns, interrupting quiet and rest. think about it a moment if you can&#039;t imagine how stressful this is. imagine or ask someone to play for you at any time they want and for a length of time unknown to you, loud things audible everywhere in your house, particularly when you&#039;ve just come home from an hour of traffic, *during* the time when you want to pray your maghrib after such arrival from work, imagine if you&#039;re a doctor returning from on call having only the window of sleep and there the loudspeaker goes again, etc. and you can&#039;t complain because the mosque committee simply ignores you, and your family would be derided as having no commitment to islam. not a single one of the local religious brigade on the internet is preaching the value of neighbourliness. if i had no knowledge of my religion, i may indeed think that i must be a bad muslim, for valuing this basic neighbourly respect, over things like whether i can make out someone&#039;s ears under her hijab. God knows what would have happened to my faith then.

i guess my disquiet comes from not being able to see if my community&#039;s efforts in religiosity has a prior big picture thought of what is it that we want to achieve.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19523">AJ</a>.</p>
<p>the &#8216;how&#8217; matters though. look at how our true scholars do it &#8211; in its intellectual tidiness, very close to the scientific method. and sometimes you gotta prioritise your replies based on whether the issue is actually prevalent in your audience, or actually a very minor concern compared to others.</p>
<p>as an example, the hadith on prohibiting hijab where the hair is piled on the back like the hump of a camel. i really haven&#8217;t seen many &#8211; if any at all &#8211; hijabi women in my country who actually do this, so for starters the real target demographic is already tiny. at most, there may be a bump as a side effect of hair being pulled up in a bun for practicality rather than ostentation. and i live in the urban area where perhaps you might see a fashion-focus more. and yet, there are cartoons and stuff passed around condemning them as not hijab. i don&#8217;t have the knowledge if this is in context, but it seems odd if the hadith context really meant &#8216;any visible hair bun&#8217;. and there are cartoons of women who are totally covered up, loose clothing, lowered headscarf with just a tiny ridge at the sides of their heads denoting a bit of visible ear silhouette &#8211; the caption/speech balloon condemning this as &#8216;not hijab&#8217;. there might be an arrow pointing to the ear in case you didn&#8217;t notice what might be wrong with the picture.</p>
<p>yet we have many mosques surrounded by housing across the nation blaring out lectures and sermons and taped recitations for several hours a day, every day, in communities where not everyone is Muslim, some people might be sick, small children may be asleep, or people have abnormal sleep/shift work patterns, interrupting quiet and rest. think about it a moment if you can&#8217;t imagine how stressful this is. imagine or ask someone to play for you at any time they want and for a length of time unknown to you, loud things audible everywhere in your house, particularly when you&#8217;ve just come home from an hour of traffic, *during* the time when you want to pray your maghrib after such arrival from work, imagine if you&#8217;re a doctor returning from on call having only the window of sleep and there the loudspeaker goes again, etc. and you can&#8217;t complain because the mosque committee simply ignores you, and your family would be derided as having no commitment to islam. not a single one of the local religious brigade on the internet is preaching the value of neighbourliness. if i had no knowledge of my religion, i may indeed think that i must be a bad muslim, for valuing this basic neighbourly respect, over things like whether i can make out someone&#8217;s ears under her hijab. God knows what would have happened to my faith then.</p>
<p>i guess my disquiet comes from not being able to see if my community&#8217;s efforts in religiosity has a prior big picture thought of what is it that we want to achieve.</p>
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		By: Islam and the Internet Series		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Islam and the Internet Series]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Islam and the Internet Series     Arguing on The Internet: the Ultimate Heart Monitor    Our Culture Of Arrogance, Anger And Online Arguments  Dawud Wharnsby once wrote in one of his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Islam and the Internet Series     Arguing on The Internet: the Ultimate Heart Monitor    Our Culture Of Arrogance, Anger And Online Arguments  Dawud Wharnsby once wrote in one of his [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: TSPMuslim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A year and a half old and this article is very relevant, maybe more so today than when it was written.

Enthusiasm is great but needs to be kept in check. The over zealous nature that many off us have cause us to loose sight of the greater principles that we have been given that we are to strive to follow. Speaking poorly of another due to an incorrect decision or an incorrect act, even deliberate ones is NOT how the Prophet dealt with things.

How many times did the Prophet (peace be upon him)openly condemn people by name? With all the persecution that he and the Sahaba suffered, if we apply our behavior today, we would have books of all the people that would have been reviled and cursed for harming the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). Those that are meantioend were the worst of the worse, those that killed, tortured maimed, etc. Now a little challenge, how many names can we actually find, a meager handful or two?

One thing all Muslims need to ask themselves, what did the the Prophet (peace be upon him) and the Sahaba (ra) have that we do not have? Character and more importantly true submission.

May Allah guide us all, ameen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year and a half old and this article is very relevant, maybe more so today than when it was written.</p>
<p>Enthusiasm is great but needs to be kept in check. The over zealous nature that many off us have cause us to loose sight of the greater principles that we have been given that we are to strive to follow. Speaking poorly of another due to an incorrect decision or an incorrect act, even deliberate ones is NOT how the Prophet dealt with things.</p>
<p>How many times did the Prophet (peace be upon him)openly condemn people by name? With all the persecution that he and the Sahaba suffered, if we apply our behavior today, we would have books of all the people that would have been reviled and cursed for harming the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). Those that are meantioend were the worst of the worse, those that killed, tortured maimed, etc. Now a little challenge, how many names can we actually find, a meager handful or two?</p>
<p>One thing all Muslims need to ask themselves, what did the the Prophet (peace be upon him) and the Sahaba (ra) have that we do not have? Character and more importantly true submission.</p>
<p>May Allah guide us all, ameen</p>
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		By: abdullah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abdullah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@admin please can we have any article regarding software cracking and counterfeiting .. i am asking this because i am a IT student]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@admin please can we have any article regarding software cracking and counterfeiting .. i am asking this because i am a IT student</p>
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		By: Cult Stories &#124; Demystifying the Cult		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cult Stories &#124; Demystifying the Cult]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] are very strongly criticised by the same Shaykh Suhayb Webb at the site he directed people towards (here). Therefore, if he does not want to adhere to the clear instructions of the Qur&#8217;an and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] are very strongly criticised by the same Shaykh Suhayb Webb at the site he directed people towards (here). Therefore, if he does not want to adhere to the clear instructions of the Qur&#8217;an and [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Dar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19529&quot;&gt;Abu Layth&lt;/a&gt;.

Imam Malik also stated, “If I was given 99 reasons to declare a person deviant and one upholding their orthodoxy, I’d go with the latter!”

Also
Imam al-Ghazali stated, “The hypocrite looks for faults, the believer looks for excuses.”  Al-Hafidh al-Dhahabi wrote, “I heard our Sheikh, Ibn Taymiyyah, d. 728 a.h, say towards the end of his life, ‘I will never declare anyone from the people of the Qiblah (Muslim direction of prayer) as an infidel.’”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19529">Abu Layth</a>.</p>
<p>Imam Malik also stated, “If I was given 99 reasons to declare a person deviant and one upholding their orthodoxy, I’d go with the latter!”</p>
<p>Also<br />
Imam al-Ghazali stated, “The hypocrite looks for faults, the believer looks for excuses.”  Al-Hafidh al-Dhahabi wrote, “I heard our Sheikh, Ibn Taymiyyah, d. 728 a.h, say towards the end of his life, ‘I will never declare anyone from the people of the Qiblah (Muslim direction of prayer) as an infidel.’”</p>
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		By: abul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 00:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@abu Layth...Bro i got same que in my mind cos most of us spend lot of time in internet and needless to say lot of people depend on internet as our maasajids are dead these days. you just pray and than masalama..i would love to hear answer of your que by Imam suhaib]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@abu Layth&#8230;Bro i got same que in my mind cos most of us spend lot of time in internet and needless to say lot of people depend on internet as our maasajids are dead these days. you just pray and than masalama..i would love to hear answer of your que by Imam suhaib</p>
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		By: Abu Layth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abu Layth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 23:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know this is very late. I&#039;m new to this website. I fell victim to this and I&#039;ve committed this several of times. It all started when I was introduced to the Salafi Manhaj. Alhamduilillah, I don&#039;t think myself better than anyone. But looking at the Salaf and how their behavior towards the people of bid&#039;ah was harsh. To the point Imam Malik said we dont give salaam to the innovators. How can we as Muslims in the 21st century apply this in a country where there is a diverse mixture of muslims. Where is the balance? How do we approach bid&#039;ah or munkar? With balance and staying in the realms of Al Wala al Bara?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is very late. I&#8217;m new to this website. I fell victim to this and I&#8217;ve committed this several of times. It all started when I was introduced to the Salafi Manhaj. Alhamduilillah, I don&#8217;t think myself better than anyone. But looking at the Salaf and how their behavior towards the people of bid&#8217;ah was harsh. To the point Imam Malik said we dont give salaam to the innovators. How can we as Muslims in the 21st century apply this in a country where there is a diverse mixture of muslims. Where is the balance? How do we approach bid&#8217;ah or munkar? With balance and staying in the realms of Al Wala al Bara?</p>
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		By: Staff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Staff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19527&quot;&gt;Charles&lt;/a&gt;.

asalamu `alaykum,

The link works from our end. It should link to: http://www.virtualmosque.com/category/islam-studies/

JazakAllahu khayr!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/arguing-on-the-internet-the-ultimate-heart-monitor/#comment-19527">Charles</a>.</p>
<p>asalamu `alaykum,</p>
<p>The link works from our end. It should link to: <a href="http://www.virtualmosque.com/category/islam-studies/" rel="ugc">http://www.virtualmosque.com/category/islam-studies/</a></p>
<p>JazakAllahu khayr!</p>
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