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		By: Usama		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 03:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38387&quot;&gt;Irfan&lt;/a&gt;.

Assalamoalikum 

Why do we find people do jummah khutbah in arabic and  English  in Hamilton newzealand why English  what&#039;s the proof  we need proof from the life of the prophet  and the three of best generations  quran and Hadith  pease  give me proof and also put in your website  and the same with khutbah of eid

Because our Islam is based on the life of the prophet and the three best generations what they said united upon and none of them did it in any other language other then arabic even though some were master of 100 languages and whent to other countries and lived there 
  please help on this 


Is an Muslim halal food organisation of newzealand  and sheikh amair  gave this fatawah please gave me and the company both the answer with the proof 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38387">Irfan</a>.</p>
<p>Assalamoalikum </p>
<p>Why do we find people do jummah khutbah in arabic and  English  in Hamilton newzealand why English  what&#8217;s the proof  we need proof from the life of the prophet  and the three of best generations  quran and Hadith  pease  give me proof and also put in your website  and the same with khutbah of eid</p>
<p>Because our Islam is based on the life of the prophet and the three best generations what they said united upon and none of them did it in any other language other then arabic even though some were master of 100 languages and whent to other countries and lived there<br />
  please help on this </p>
<p>Is an Muslim halal food organisation of newzealand  and sheikh amair  gave this fatawah please gave me and the company both the answer with the proof </p>
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		By: Mohamed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38320&quot;&gt;Ahmad&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes..even Arabic has different forms of dialect..so it does make sense to switch from classic arabic to south tunisian arabic..to make south tunisians understand for example..IT IS ALL ABOUT UNDERSTANDING!]]></description>
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<p>Yes..even Arabic has different forms of dialect..so it does make sense to switch from classic arabic to south tunisian arabic..to make south tunisians understand for example..IT IS ALL ABOUT UNDERSTANDING!</p>
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		By: Irfan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 01:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also many people confuse what is said regarding the soundness of khutbah and the issue of language. Its true that usage of different language would not effect the soundness of khutbah in that the khutbah would be valid and not nullified. But this does NOT equate to permissibility of using other language. It does not equate to meaning that using an other language does not make the person a fasiq.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also many people confuse what is said regarding the soundness of khutbah and the issue of language. Its true that usage of different language would not effect the soundness of khutbah in that the khutbah would be valid and not nullified. But this does NOT equate to permissibility of using other language. It does not equate to meaning that using an other language does not make the person a fasiq.</p>
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		By: Chad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38380&quot;&gt;Michael Gatto&lt;/a&gt;.

The Khutba, as part of the Jumuah pray, has been considered by many to an act of worship, one that was specifically performed by our Prophet (SAW). It&#039;s not surprising that scholars from the very beginning would be wary of changing it for that very reason. While I agree it seems only logical to want to address people in a language they understand, we should hold off on the insults. This issue goes back to some of the earliest fuqahaa, who weren&#039;t out to spread an Arabist philosophy around the world, but rather to spread a better understand of our Faith.
Whether right or wrong, we ask Allah to reward them for their efforts in His Path, and forgive their mistakes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38380">Michael Gatto</a>.</p>
<p>The Khutba, as part of the Jumuah pray, has been considered by many to an act of worship, one that was specifically performed by our Prophet (SAW). It&#8217;s not surprising that scholars from the very beginning would be wary of changing it for that very reason. While I agree it seems only logical to want to address people in a language they understand, we should hold off on the insults. This issue goes back to some of the earliest fuqahaa, who weren&#8217;t out to spread an Arabist philosophy around the world, but rather to spread a better understand of our Faith.<br />
Whether right or wrong, we ask Allah to reward them for their efforts in His Path, and forgive their mistakes.</p>
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		By: Haroon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 03:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Assalamualaikum
JazakAllahu Khair

A very well balanced article]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamualaikum<br />
JazakAllahu Khair</p>
<p>A very well balanced article</p>
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		By: Haroon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 03:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38330&quot;&gt;Abu Majeed&lt;/a&gt;.

Assalamualaikum

I am a resident of India and have lived in both Shafi dominated south and Hanafi dominated north (currently in bangalore). I have also spent some time in UK

The Shafis here consider the Khutbah to be equivalent to the two rakahs of dhuhr and hence do it only in Arabic. Week on week people go into jumuah and there is hardly any perceptible development of the muslims because of the lack of understanding.

In bangalore the deobandi imams have long since worked out a formula to overcome this issue. They tend to give a half hour speech in the local language after dhuhrs time has started. Following this speech the imam will deliver the 2 arabic khutbahs with the khutbatul haajath and the verses and hadith used in the speech followed by prayers.

I have found masjids now that have begun delivering the khutbah itself in the local language and they tend to be salafi.

Wallahu A&#039;lam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38330">Abu Majeed</a>.</p>
<p>Assalamualaikum</p>
<p>I am a resident of India and have lived in both Shafi dominated south and Hanafi dominated north (currently in bangalore). I have also spent some time in UK</p>
<p>The Shafis here consider the Khutbah to be equivalent to the two rakahs of dhuhr and hence do it only in Arabic. Week on week people go into jumuah and there is hardly any perceptible development of the muslims because of the lack of understanding.</p>
<p>In bangalore the deobandi imams have long since worked out a formula to overcome this issue. They tend to give a half hour speech in the local language after dhuhrs time has started. Following this speech the imam will deliver the 2 arabic khutbahs with the khutbatul haajath and the verses and hadith used in the speech followed by prayers.</p>
<p>I have found masjids now that have begun delivering the khutbah itself in the local language and they tend to be salafi.</p>
<p>Wallahu A&#8217;lam</p>
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		By: R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just want to say I love this post - I have, without the same amount of research, have pushed and talked to many of my local imams and scholars about this very issue.

I feel strongly that the Khutbah, whilst maintaining the pillars/quran/ahadith/salawat in Arabic, should otherwise contain a local language for the audience to take benefit.

Far too often you find young members of the congregation sitting playing with phones and even lip-syncing the Khutbah, because they&#039;ve heard it time and time again. They don&#039;t understand a single word, so much so that when the Imam is making du&#039;a, nobody says Amin!!?

A few Arabs and those, like me, who have learned Arabic sound out our Amin and raise our hands in dua, are the small minority in a typical London, UK mosque.

I have five mosques in my locality, most of them are Deobandi, all of them are Hanafi. Only one of them does a Khutbah in Bengali and English, where they begin with Arabic and end with Arabic. This is a great model, but sadly most of the other mosques don&#039;t do this. Surprisingly, one mosque had an amazing Bengali Imam who spoke amazingly in Arabic and gave a resounding khutbah, but sadly only about three people in the whole congregation really understood the great advice being imparted. What a sad loss.

In France, an Imam told me that the new generations of North African French kids are being lost, they are demanding the khutbah be in French - as these Arab kids do not understand the Arabic anymore! If this is happening to the Arab kids, then clearly generations of Asians in the UK are also slowly losing their mother tongues and their first language seems to be English.

I do not advocate for the removal of Arabic or in any way paving the way for other Arabic to be replaced with local language, but as the author above writes, the Khutbah being in another language is not an open door for other areas of our deen to be derived of Arabic.

Arabic is a sublime language and our deen is not an Arab deen, but it is for all mankind and the message has come for all

The amazing thing about the jumu&#039;ah is that you have young Muslim kids who usually do not pray or practice at all, still attending for those two rakat. They still come either out of pressure or as tradition/duty - whatever the reason, they are still coming. These kids do not buy CDs, watch lectures or attend great Islamic conferences. They won&#039;t be able to name a scholar or a fiqh book or even know the meaning of Al-Fatiha. But they do come to this one moment, of about half an hour, every week and they listen. Why would we then waste this precious, beautiful moment and lose these young minds? If there was an opportunity for da&#039;wah, then this is it.

I believe there does need to be consensus on this and drive towards bringing our youth back to the deen and the Khutbah is the best place to start.

Either that or we have a super drive to teach everyone Arabic.

Thanks for you post, I think it is very much needed. May Allah accept your research and guide us to do what is right and good. Amin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say I love this post &#8211; I have, without the same amount of research, have pushed and talked to many of my local imams and scholars about this very issue.</p>
<p>I feel strongly that the Khutbah, whilst maintaining the pillars/quran/ahadith/salawat in Arabic, should otherwise contain a local language for the audience to take benefit.</p>
<p>Far too often you find young members of the congregation sitting playing with phones and even lip-syncing the Khutbah, because they&#8217;ve heard it time and time again. They don&#8217;t understand a single word, so much so that when the Imam is making du&#8217;a, nobody says Amin!!?</p>
<p>A few Arabs and those, like me, who have learned Arabic sound out our Amin and raise our hands in dua, are the small minority in a typical London, UK mosque.</p>
<p>I have five mosques in my locality, most of them are Deobandi, all of them are Hanafi. Only one of them does a Khutbah in Bengali and English, where they begin with Arabic and end with Arabic. This is a great model, but sadly most of the other mosques don&#8217;t do this. Surprisingly, one mosque had an amazing Bengali Imam who spoke amazingly in Arabic and gave a resounding khutbah, but sadly only about three people in the whole congregation really understood the great advice being imparted. What a sad loss.</p>
<p>In France, an Imam told me that the new generations of North African French kids are being lost, they are demanding the khutbah be in French &#8211; as these Arab kids do not understand the Arabic anymore! If this is happening to the Arab kids, then clearly generations of Asians in the UK are also slowly losing their mother tongues and their first language seems to be English.</p>
<p>I do not advocate for the removal of Arabic or in any way paving the way for other Arabic to be replaced with local language, but as the author above writes, the Khutbah being in another language is not an open door for other areas of our deen to be derived of Arabic.</p>
<p>Arabic is a sublime language and our deen is not an Arab deen, but it is for all mankind and the message has come for all</p>
<p>The amazing thing about the jumu&#8217;ah is that you have young Muslim kids who usually do not pray or practice at all, still attending for those two rakat. They still come either out of pressure or as tradition/duty &#8211; whatever the reason, they are still coming. These kids do not buy CDs, watch lectures or attend great Islamic conferences. They won&#8217;t be able to name a scholar or a fiqh book or even know the meaning of Al-Fatiha. But they do come to this one moment, of about half an hour, every week and they listen. Why would we then waste this precious, beautiful moment and lose these young minds? If there was an opportunity for da&#8217;wah, then this is it.</p>
<p>I believe there does need to be consensus on this and drive towards bringing our youth back to the deen and the Khutbah is the best place to start.</p>
<p>Either that or we have a super drive to teach everyone Arabic.</p>
<p>Thanks for you post, I think it is very much needed. May Allah accept your research and guide us to do what is right and good. Amin.</p>
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		By: R		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38333&quot;&gt;Iman&lt;/a&gt;.

Re: point 2, you would have a point, but sadly this logic fails when the vast majority of Muslims of the world do not know Arabic. What is the point of having something in Arabic, when the audience does not understand. The purpose of a talk or khutbah then  becomes useless and the congregation leaves with nothing learned.

I sit in mosques (UK) and I understand the Arabic (learned abroad), but sadly most around me sit playing with their phones. I have been pushing my local Deobandi Mufti (who agrees with me) that there needs to be change across the mosques in the UK.]]></description>
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<p>Re: point 2, you would have a point, but sadly this logic fails when the vast majority of Muslims of the world do not know Arabic. What is the point of having something in Arabic, when the audience does not understand. The purpose of a talk or khutbah then  becomes useless and the congregation leaves with nothing learned.</p>
<p>I sit in mosques (UK) and I understand the Arabic (learned abroad), but sadly most around me sit playing with their phones. I have been pushing my local Deobandi Mufti (who agrees with me) that there needs to be change across the mosques in the UK.</p>
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		By: Michael Gatto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.virtualmosque.com/ummah/community/the-language-of-the-khutbah/#comment-38365&quot;&gt;Raashid&lt;/a&gt;.

&#062;&#062;Personally, I believe Arabic was meant to be the language of every Muslim.

Then, he question you must answer is why did Allah not create us that way? Also, why did Allah not say this explicitly, then? This seems to be a fairly nationalistic idea, and not necessarily something I feel the Quran would reflect.]]></description>
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<p>&gt;&gt;Personally, I believe Arabic was meant to be the language of every Muslim.</p>
<p>Then, he question you must answer is why did Allah not create us that way? Also, why did Allah not say this explicitly, then? This seems to be a fairly nationalistic idea, and not necessarily something I feel the Quran would reflect.</p>
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		By: Michael Gatto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am distressed really, why do even have to ask that question? Are so mired in Middle Eastern nationalisms that we&#039;ve lost all common sense? Do we really favor dogma and empty rituals over understanding. I mean, really...I get exhausted being a part of something where people lose common sense and act like crazy pagans who fetishize a ritual without no clue about the religion. Argh!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am distressed really, why do even have to ask that question? Are so mired in Middle Eastern nationalisms that we&#8217;ve lost all common sense? Do we really favor dogma and empty rituals over understanding. I mean, really&#8230;I get exhausted being a part of something where people lose common sense and act like crazy pagans who fetishize a ritual without no clue about the religion. Argh!</p>
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